Posted on Oct 8, 2014
TSgt Joshua Copeland
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Concealed carry
Given all the threats being circulated about ISIS attacks here in the states, do you conceal carry?
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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CCW permitted in a state that does not require a permit, but has reciprocal agreements with 32 other states. Here is a study which supports the argument for Concealed Carry:
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/138894094.html
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PO3 Electrician's Mate
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I neither denial nor confirm :)
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COL Jon Thompson
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I have a carry permit that allows concealed or open carry in Iowa. I do not carry right now but do have a question for those that do. For an automatic pistol, do you have a round in the chamber or just a magazine in the pistol? I know the latter is safer but also slows down the response time. Interested in hearing advice from you all out there.
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SSgt William Hamilton
SSgt William Hamilton
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Personally I do not generally load one in the chamber just to carry. Of course that changes depending on the environment I am in. I totally agree what is said below. IN GA Only pull a firearm and use it if you are in imminent danger of life or serious personal injury or the same in protection of another.
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SGT Charles Kime
SGT Charles Kime
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1. It is impossible to have a negligent discharge with no round in the chamber.
2. It takes time and (usually) 2 hands to *put* a round in the chamber.
3. One or both requirements from #2 have the potential to be in short supply if you are in a position to need your sidearm.
4. Most modern semi-auto pistols are next to impossible to discharge without pulling the trigger.
5. If you are uncomfortable with a loaded chamber, load a dummy round or snap-cap and carry it that way for a while. You *should* see that nothing ever happens.

You must weigh the odds of a discharge (taking into account the results of #5) and its resultant possible outcome against the odds of not being able to chamber a round and its possible outcome.
Me? 1911 govt model in condition 1 (cocked and locked), all day, every day.
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PVT Robert Gresham
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SSgt David Tedrow I absolutely love my Springfield XDs, .45 3.3". Small and lightweight, and it still holds 8 .45 caliber rounds with an extended magazine. I always carry it, except where illegal to do so, of course. As for advice, just follow the safety rules that are basic to all firearms and, in addition, these excellent rules set out in freerepublic.com:

1. YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY. Draw it solely in preparation to protect yourself or an innocent third party from the wrongful and criminal activities of another.

2. KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR WEAPON. A criminal adversary must have or reasonably appear to have:

A. The ABILITY to inflict serious bodily injury. He is armed or reasonably appears to be armed.

B. The OPPORTUNITY to inflict serious bodily harm. He is positioned to harm you with his weapon, and,

C. His INTENT (hostile actions or words) indicates that he means to place you in jeopardy - to do you serious or fatal physical harm.

When all three of these "attack potential" elements are in place simultaneously, then you are facing a reasonably perceived deadly threat that justifies an emergency deadly force response. Note that these conditions may be defined differently in certain circumstances. For example, a small woman may be justified in using deadly force with a handgun against a much stronger male who is unarmed and attempting to rape or kill her. For a male vs. male encounter the defendant probably would not be justified unless possibly if he was physically handicapped, elderly, etc. This is known as disparity of force.

3. IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY SAFELY- RUN!

Just because you are armed doesn't necessarily mean that you must confront a bad guy at gunpoint. Develop your situation awareness skills so that you can be alert to detect and avoid trouble as much as possible. Keep in mind that if you successfully evade a potential confrontation, the single negative consequence involved might only be your bruised ego, which should heal quickly with mature rationalization. But if you force a confrontation, and it escalates into deadly force, you risk the possibility of death or serious injury to yourself and any friends, family members, or innocent bystanders that may be present. Also you face the possibility of criminal liability and/or financial ruin from a civil lawsuit as a result of your actions. Flee if you can - fight only as a last resort.

Naturally, there are circumstances in which you may be able to flee but it would not be in your best interest or judgment to do so. For example, a situation that you could easily flee from when alone may be difficult to safely avoid if your family was with you. Also it may be a judgment/ethics call on whether or not to fight or flee based on what is happening to potential victims around you. Use good judgment on how you will react to any given circumstance.

4. DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL.

You should expect to be arrested by police at gunpoint, and be charged with a crime anytime your concealed handgun is seen by another citizen in public, regardless of how unintentional, innocent, or justified the situation might seem.

Choose a method of carry that reliably keeps your gun hidden from public view at all times. You have no control over how a stranger will react to seeing (or learning about) your concealed weapon. He of she might become alarmed and report you as a "man or woman with a gun". Depending on his or her feelings about firearms, this person might maliciously embellish their story in an attempt to have your gun seized by police or in order to get you arrested. Even though your jacket only blew open for a moment, giving a brief glimpse of your gun, that person may tell the police that you were waving it around like a homicidal maniac. An alarmed citizen who reports a "man or woman with a gun" is going to be a lot more credible to police than you are when you are stopped because you match the "suspect's" description and you are found to have a concealed handgun in your possession. Before you deliberately expose your gun in public, ask yourself "is this worth going to jail for?" The only time this question should warrant a "yes" response is when an adversary has at least both the ABILITY and INTENT and is actively seeking the OPPORTUNITY to do you great harm.

It is also not usually a very good idea to let too many people know that you carry a gun. This fact should be limited to your immediate family and select friends who are "gun people" also. Please, for your sake and the sake of others around you - be discreet!

5. DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU.

When you are armed, you must realize that you just lost your right to initiate ANY type of confrontation that could possibly escalate into a violent encounter. You must now have a very mellow attitude on life and your fellow mankind.

You just lost the right to flip off the motorist who just cut you off in traffic. You have to ignore the scumbag who just "wolf-whistled" at your wife/girlfriend. If someone wants to pick a fight with you, you lost the right to respond in any way other than a kind, friendly manner while walking away. As an armed person you must be more likely, and willing, to avoid trouble that an unarmed person would be. You have the legal and moral obligation of de-escalating any situation that you are presented with unless you are faced by someone displaying all three of the "attack potential" elements. Carrying a loaded firearm among your fellow citizens is an awesome responsibility that is not to be taken lightly.
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SFC Jim Ruether
SFC Jim Ruether
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What is the purchase price of this XD
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PVT Robert Gresham
PVT Robert Gresham
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SFC Jim Ruether About $400 - $450.
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SGT Jimmy Carpenter
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I have several firearms that I can carry depending on what I'm wearing. Since I live in Florida and typically wear shorts and tee shirts the majority of time, I tend to carry a "pocket pistol", Ruger LCP. I've also got a Springfield XDs .45 and subcompact 9mm
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PO1 Michael Dumm
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Kimber Ultra Carry II in .45 cal.
Carry all day, everyday.
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TSgt Kevin Buccola
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there is only one way to find out........
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LCDR Bruce Cooley
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I wish that California, and in particular my county, would NOT have such steep requirements to even consider granting a permit. IF they did, I would.
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