Posted on Nov 13, 2016
PFC Jason Jackson
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SFC Arcc (Army Reserve Career Counselor)
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Doesn't count for retirement, but TIS yes.
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2LT All Source Intelligence
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Does anyone know if IRR time counts towards what is considered "civil service?" I want to know if after serving an 8x8 contract then going into the IRR for 2 years would qualify as a total time of 10 years civil service. I see some comments on status in IRR, what are the status options?
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PFC Jason Jackson
PFC Jason Jackson
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I would call and ask a recruiter for that answer.
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LTC Dennis Rears
LTC Dennis Rears
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I presume you mean GS civil service position. Only active duty time counts. Unless you did a couple of AD tours none of the IRR time counts. BTW, for the eight years of active duty to cound for service you have to buy back the time. It will cost you 3% of your base pay for those 8 years of service.
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GySgt Kenneth Pepper
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Count for what? Similar to the question of what truly qualifies someone to be called a veteran, the key word is "service" How many years did you actually spend working toward the defense of our nation? Did you make a genuine effort to maintain readiness if recalled, or did you move on with your life like 99.9% do?
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Capt Retired
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My retirement letter credited me with 39 years and 2 days of service.

I did 14 years, 8 months, and 1 day of active.

I did 8 1/2 years of Army Reserve (one weekend a month and 2 weeks of annual training).

I consider I have 23 1/2 years of service. BUT, if I were to serve again I would be considered to have over 39 years to determine my place on the pay chart.

My pay retirement reflects the active time plus the active reserve time. The reserve time is based on the yearly points earned.
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SGT AH-64 Attack Helicopter Repairer
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Being that I was AD, had a 9yr break in service before joining the AR then put into IRR due to civilian deployment, I consider my time in the IRR as part of time in service but only consider my time when on AR Status as time served so to speak.
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PO1 Cryptologic Technician (Technical)
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No......it's Inactive Ready Reserve. It's basically a stand-by mode.
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MSG Mechanic 2nd
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you are correct, but in the irr you can still receive a good year if you fullfil the points requirement, by taking correspondence courses, going on support missions, you can not get ncoes schools or any other schools, myself ended up in Hawaii for a support mission while irr, although it didn't give me a good year I still received the points for that time along with the affiliation points, i'm retired reserves now and still get 15 points a year until age 60, I have 20 year letter with 31 plus years in
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PO1 Cryptologic Technician (Technical)
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MSG (Join to see) - Sounds tricky in order to still get your points. How does that even work with someone in the IRR, because if you're on a support mission, you go to an Active Component or Reserve?
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MSG Mechanic 2nd
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yes you do but it is for time allotted, you do your mission come home and maybe do another, also having contact with your career planner helps, they find the mission you need only to accept or deny whether ad or ar, I don't know about navy but army you have a career counsellor, contact them and see whats available, so if you have seasonal civi job, and want work, points and money this will works, there are always shortages and yes irr can fill them
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LTC Dennis Rears
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You can do schools and special assignments. Generally 29 days or less.
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SFC(P) Drill Sergeant
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Like most say i had 3 years marine corps IRR time which back then i wouldnt say i did 8 years in the corps i would of said usually my 4 years active duty. But since being in the Army all my IRR time counts towards TIS. So my LES shows 16 years so when people ask i just tell them ive been in for 16 years even though 3 was in the IRR just makes it easier instead of explaining it all. But if you did anything while in the IRR you could still have good retirement points during that time.
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SPC Infantryman
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I was 4 active and 4 IRR in the USMC. Now that I'm active in the Army, they are counting it towards my time in service. If I want to retire in the Army, will they count the additional 4 years from IRR? If not, will I owe back pay for being in a higher pay bracket? TIS >6 years to TIS >8 years? or eventually TIS 15 years retired, instead of TIS 11 years of being in uniform?
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COL Vincent Stoneking
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SPC (Join to see) - Slightly complicated question. There are two different threads.
1. It counts for Longevity pay. When you look at the pay chart, us the "more than X years" column that includes your IRR time.
2. For retirement eligibility, you need to determine your total time active federal service (AFS), or equivalent AFS. Practically speaking, count up the number of days you served on active duty + the number of points you earned in the reserves and divide by 365. That is the number of years AFS you have. You need 20 of those to retire. And your retired pay will be final pay * Years AFS * 2.5% (unless you take the new blended system). I'm honestly not sure if your membership points would count towards AFS calculation, but you only have about 60 of them, so it doesn't make a practical difference.

For the record, reserve retirement works exactly the same way, with a few tweaks:
A. You need 20 "good years" (not AFS), which are years where you accumulated at least 50 points, in order to retire.
B. To determine equivalent years AFS, you use the same formula and divide by 360 (not 365, don't know why). Membership and correspondence points count, but you are limited to a maximum of either 360 or 365 per year.
C. You draw your retirement once you reach age 60, AND apply for retired pay (not automatic). It is possible to draw it earlier based on deployments after 2008.
D. The retired pay formula is exactly the same. Where an AC Soldier will retire at a minimum of 50% base pay (unless blended or redux), a reservist could theoretically retire with a minimum of 6.9% (active) base pay. Assumes the reservist did the absolute minimum possible and retired with exactly 1000 points (3.78 years AFS equivalent).
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SSG David Leonard
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