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Posted on Aug 7, 2015
Do you feel currently Department Veteran Affairs (DVA) failing to give veterans timely care/service?
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Requesting Feedback : I have been working with Department Veteran Affairs administration to give veterans timely care. But a number of veterans and their family members pointed out to me on Monday key officials haven't been helping.We can all agree historically U.S. veterans have gotten the "shaft" no matter who's in power.I continue to have faith Department Veteran Affairs (DVA) will "clean house" holding employees accountable and putting veterans first.
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Personally, I've been waiting since August 2015 since the last action on a compensation appeal. If this level of "customer service" is any indicator of the rest of the VA system I am thankful that I do not have to depend on the VA for any level of care.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
B I N G O ~~Many Issues Have Happened To Me At Our North Las Vegas VA Medical Care Center. But Just For Chuckles, Here A Couple. A Short Version Of YEARS Of Medical Fa-Cups. ~
I Was Diagnosed For A Mental Health Condition I Did NOT Have, And Medicated For It ~~ Went NUTS For YEARS, In & Out Of The ER On Such A Regular Basis, When I Walked Into The ER & Was Recognized By Name, I've Been Hospitalized ETC~ The Full "9 Yards"
WHAT WAS The PROBLEM? The MEDICATION. ~ The SOLUTION: Took Me Off The Medications ! ~
~~ NEXT & Beginning During My "Fruit Cake Years" ~ I'd Developed A Liver Infection And Was Sick As All "L" And My Primary Insisted "There's Nothing Wrong With You, Your Blood Shows A SMALL Increase In The White Blood Cell Count, But Nothing To Be Concerned About", But It Continued Getting Worse Over Time And My Primary Refused To Allow Me A Complete Physical Exam ~~ WHY? There's Nothing Wrong With Yoi And I Can't Justify The Cost" It All In Your Head So I Can Make An Appointment For You With One Of Our Psychiatrists And Give You Something To Help Make You Feel Better":
I Rejected Both Of His Suggestions, RESULT?.. Emergency Surgery, Infection Throughout My Body & Also Caused A Brain Infection ~ A MONTH In The Hospital & Loss Of All Teeth, With Daily Home Visits From An RN To Inject Additional Medications.. One Of The ER Doctors Stated "Had You Not Been Brought In Right Away, You'd Have Died Before Morning.~~~And Those Are Just TWO Of A Continuing Story, And You Can Believe "There Were Many More". ~ But Now I'm On Medicare ~ Thanks To The Gods Everywhere,
I Survived The North Las Vegas VA's Medical Care ~
I Was Diagnosed For A Mental Health Condition I Did NOT Have, And Medicated For It ~~ Went NUTS For YEARS, In & Out Of The ER On Such A Regular Basis, When I Walked Into The ER & Was Recognized By Name, I've Been Hospitalized ETC~ The Full "9 Yards"
WHAT WAS The PROBLEM? The MEDICATION. ~ The SOLUTION: Took Me Off The Medications ! ~
~~ NEXT & Beginning During My "Fruit Cake Years" ~ I'd Developed A Liver Infection And Was Sick As All "L" And My Primary Insisted "There's Nothing Wrong With You, Your Blood Shows A SMALL Increase In The White Blood Cell Count, But Nothing To Be Concerned About", But It Continued Getting Worse Over Time And My Primary Refused To Allow Me A Complete Physical Exam ~~ WHY? There's Nothing Wrong With Yoi And I Can't Justify The Cost" It All In Your Head So I Can Make An Appointment For You With One Of Our Psychiatrists And Give You Something To Help Make You Feel Better":
I Rejected Both Of His Suggestions, RESULT?.. Emergency Surgery, Infection Throughout My Body & Also Caused A Brain Infection ~ A MONTH In The Hospital & Loss Of All Teeth, With Daily Home Visits From An RN To Inject Additional Medications.. One Of The ER Doctors Stated "Had You Not Been Brought In Right Away, You'd Have Died Before Morning.~~~And Those Are Just TWO Of A Continuing Story, And You Can Believe "There Were Many More". ~ But Now I'm On Medicare ~ Thanks To The Gods Everywhere,
I Survived The North Las Vegas VA's Medical Care ~
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Yes the system is strained due in large part to mismanagement on the top levels, also the people in power are political hacks for the most part and they don't take adequate stock in their underlings. That system is not set up to win, it's set up to make politicians look good on paper. This is unfortunate.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
SrA Cecelia Eareckson -
SAME HERE ~ We HAVE Some Great Veteran Benefits
~ WE Veterans Just Can't GET Them.~
SAME HERE ~ We HAVE Some Great Veteran Benefits
~ WE Veterans Just Can't GET Them.~
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Yes. I'm on a waiting list for 2 months now to see my specialist for my back here in ohio
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LCpl (Join to see)
I am required to travel out of state for VHA services. Had been on a waiting list very long time and then canceled by VHA to avoid fee-based services in my local commuting area. After a number, of complaints to VHA, the assigned clerk reschedules me and states the cancelation is due to any appointments past 45 days.
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Yes of course it is. They are a huge health system that is under-maned. I suggest you take a few minutes to search the forum, you'll find a lot of different threads that discuss different issues within the VA.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
Under-staffed? Too funny! I got to see behind the scenes while working at a VAMC. all sorts of ceremonies, picnics, and other events that take staff wawaybfromtheir duties. And let me not forget to mention that a number of adminpositions are filled with licensed providers, who could be rendering actual patient care instead of riding a desk.
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Not incidentally, and not being snarky, but how does one get to have input at the VA as an individual veteran? What took place on Monday?
Thank you.
Thank you.
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They don't know what to do with women. When they make a show, it is about new mothers. It looks great, and makes lots of people happy to see, but behind the PR, they are failing dismally. There are more of us who are menopausal, and get zip. There's worse. A clerk with a hs diploma stopped me getting any dental care for two years. I never knew why. These clerks are allowed to decide who gets an appointment. You will never see that at a real medical facility.
There is all the if this, then that over disability ratings. Who is authorized what? Who has a copay? Etc.
Then there is the fact that any VA employee can see a veteran's rating. They see "NSC," and a known shellter, and they treat that veteran like dirt.
I worked at a VAMC, that is a whole other story, but the waste was staggering.
Want to provide better healthcare for veterans? Just buy us the same coverage VA employees get.
There is all the if this, then that over disability ratings. Who is authorized what? Who has a copay? Etc.
Then there is the fact that any VA employee can see a veteran's rating. They see "NSC," and a known shellter, and they treat that veteran like dirt.
I worked at a VAMC, that is a whole other story, but the waste was staggering.
Want to provide better healthcare for veterans? Just buy us the same coverage VA employees get.
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There are multiple sides to stories. Working at the VA, my first position was in Outreach. I heard all sorts of stories some valid, some not so valid. Documentation is everything, using someone from the VFW/DAV/American Legion to help you through the process is very beneficial. Assume every person in the VA knows nothing about what you are talking about. Far too often I heard Veterans say " well they know this stuff," No they actually don't. Incomplete documentations kills what you chance of enrollment. Two expecting that every VA provides the distinct service you need, another fallacy. Most VA do not have a Medical Surgical suite that rivals John Hopkins, get it, you may have to go somewhere for particular treatment. Next don't assume we are fully staff, because we are not, and most likely the speed of hiring (at least at my facility is slow). Don't assume everyone makes big wages, we don't, medical professionals can make more at almost any other non government facility. Many of the IT professionals and other professions can as well.
Veteran if have an appointment, show up. You just killed the chance of someone else getting in. If you think your injury during a floor buffer session in 1962 caused you have to methyl ethyl death syndrome, come in with something to support it. Don't just bemoan the system, bring hard documented facts from other providers, scientific research showing floor buffers can lead to methyl ethyl death syndrome. Witness statements, they substantiate what you need to prove that you were firebase X in 1918. With out them you making a case against what ever tis in your records, and if your records don't show you at Firebase X in 1918, and instead show you at the PX, well you got an in-substituted claim.
Also if you were less than honorable, best get your ass down tot he county office for Veterans Affairs and work to get an appeal put together to get your self upgrade to Honorable or don't expect to much support (the onus is on you for this one). Many a vet has been turned down due to their having a less than honorable.
Don't be one of the many BS artists who make claims for various things who quite frankly were no where near where the incident took place. Desk jockeys who make claims for PTSD, who were never the battlefield, has become a common claim.
One good point I will bring up: denial due to income versus time of your service and or awards. Purple Heart & POW come to mind. Defacto you should get through the system regardless of your income for these categories, but many a VA clerk has gotten as far as your last years tax returns and not read the DD-214. I have gone to bat for more than a few Vets in this lane because I knew someone who knew someone who could get it corrected (FYI, I no longer have that connection so please don't send me all the cases of the world to get fixed). These folks get overlooked and shouldn't. I am not in the realm of people who work the claims side, so I cannot speculate what they go through on a day to day basis. But I know they never have down time, I also know the VA started shipping case load from the overloaded to less overloaded to balance out the load.
Veteran if have an appointment, show up. You just killed the chance of someone else getting in. If you think your injury during a floor buffer session in 1962 caused you have to methyl ethyl death syndrome, come in with something to support it. Don't just bemoan the system, bring hard documented facts from other providers, scientific research showing floor buffers can lead to methyl ethyl death syndrome. Witness statements, they substantiate what you need to prove that you were firebase X in 1918. With out them you making a case against what ever tis in your records, and if your records don't show you at Firebase X in 1918, and instead show you at the PX, well you got an in-substituted claim.
Also if you were less than honorable, best get your ass down tot he county office for Veterans Affairs and work to get an appeal put together to get your self upgrade to Honorable or don't expect to much support (the onus is on you for this one). Many a vet has been turned down due to their having a less than honorable.
Don't be one of the many BS artists who make claims for various things who quite frankly were no where near where the incident took place. Desk jockeys who make claims for PTSD, who were never the battlefield, has become a common claim.
One good point I will bring up: denial due to income versus time of your service and or awards. Purple Heart & POW come to mind. Defacto you should get through the system regardless of your income for these categories, but many a VA clerk has gotten as far as your last years tax returns and not read the DD-214. I have gone to bat for more than a few Vets in this lane because I knew someone who knew someone who could get it corrected (FYI, I no longer have that connection so please don't send me all the cases of the world to get fixed). These folks get overlooked and shouldn't. I am not in the realm of people who work the claims side, so I cannot speculate what they go through on a day to day basis. But I know they never have down time, I also know the VA started shipping case load from the overloaded to less overloaded to balance out the load.
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LCpl (Join to see)
I am completely mind blown by a new report from GAO (Government Accountability Office) saying VA needs more oversight in securing its facilities.
Howly cow! I am so not surprised. I am almost dying from my level not surprise.
The GAO report concluded the agency fails to account for the population of individuals using VA healthcare facilities or the size of facilities when conducting risk assessments. It also concluded the agency does not include performance measures in its assessments.
Back to kindergarten for those VA employees, apparently.
According to GAO, VA further:
does not review the quality of medical centers' required risk assessments,
does not identify whether countermeasures were implemented appropriately by the medical centers, and
does not collect system-wide data to gain an understanding of physical security issues across medical centers.
How safe would you feel if you were a VA employee reading this?
Howly cow! I am so not surprised. I am almost dying from my level not surprise.
The GAO report concluded the agency fails to account for the population of individuals using VA healthcare facilities or the size of facilities when conducting risk assessments. It also concluded the agency does not include performance measures in its assessments.
Back to kindergarten for those VA employees, apparently.
According to GAO, VA further:
does not review the quality of medical centers' required risk assessments,
does not identify whether countermeasures were implemented appropriately by the medical centers, and
does not collect system-wide data to gain an understanding of physical security issues across medical centers.
How safe would you feel if you were a VA employee reading this?
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
Condescend a little harder. First, the VSO's do not serve women. (Somebody will take exception.) Second, about that documentation, it can be very difficult to keep hold of. I am under the impression that the VA has a duty to assist, so maybe you should not be shining veterans on to VSO's. Gonna end with this last bit, the VA is just plain not doing a goid job of anything, and speaking of enrollment and records, after two years, three written notices sent certified mail, it took a Congressional inquiry to get MY ADDRESS CHANGED. LET ME REPEAT. TWO YEARS. THREE WRITTEN NOTICES. CONGRESSIONAL INQUIRY FOR AN ADDRESS CHANGE. And you have the nerve to lecture us about records?
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
I missed a spot. Noncombat PTSD is what the VA is pleased to call claims for sexual trauma. I am utterly disgusted at your callous attitude towards me and my sisters who endured those experiences. Frankly, I think you should be dismissed. It is not your place to judge any disability claim, regardless of the nature or cause of disability. You are everything that is wrong with the VA.
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The AFGE Union sent a letter to Congress asking lawmakers to investigate massive fraud committed by contractors administering the Veterans Choice Program. Rampant and documented fraud has been exposed being committed by VA contractors working the system. Meanwhile, VA employees are putting veterans in the middle by not processing Veterans Choice claims in the manner required by law. VA employees were allowed to break the system without accountability, the natural backlash of which is naturally going to be a push in the direction of greater outsourcing of more services previously performed by VA employees. Yet again, veterans are the pawns between special interests of our two party fraud of a political system.
In the letter, AFGE president J. David Cox said the following. These excerpts are in no particular order:
"H.R. 4242 is a terrible piece of legislation that not only chips away at the only health care system tailored to the unique needs of veterans, but it also insulates private, for-profit providers from being accountable to veterans or taxpayers. We keep hearing from Congress and the Administration that there needs to be a greater level of accountability, but when it came down to making sure these private providers would be accountable to the men and women who served this country, party politics won out.
The questionable practices used by third party administrators (TPA) of the VA Choice Program, TriWest, and HealthNet, including double billing and improper payment rates, have directly harmed veterans and undermined the capacity of the VA health care system to provide them with the exemplary care that they have earned with their service. Therefore, AFGE respectfully requests that the House Veterans· Affairs Committee and the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations conduct oversight hearings into the contractors billing practices and the VA’s ability to provide effective oversight of these contracts.
While the IG’s memo is written in bureaucratic prose, what it firmly establishes is that in a rush to ensure that Choice program contractors receive favorable treatment and fast reimbursement, the VA has overpaid both TriWest and HealthNet almost $100 million. This amounts to a 5% overpayment error rate just for the contractors’ obvious bookkeeping mistakes. Not included within the scope of the IG’s examination and memo are potentially more substantive and larger overcharging issues relating to the services being provided to veterans. Clearly, the payment error rate, not to mention the potential waste associated with Choice program, is far too high, and we respectfully request that the respective Veterans’ Affairs Committees open an inquiry into the Choice program contracting practices of both VA and its healthcare contractors, and the need for a more robust system of audit and oversight. Choice must not become another government pathway for enriching contractors at the expense of veterans".
In the letter, AFGE president J. David Cox said the following. These excerpts are in no particular order:
"H.R. 4242 is a terrible piece of legislation that not only chips away at the only health care system tailored to the unique needs of veterans, but it also insulates private, for-profit providers from being accountable to veterans or taxpayers. We keep hearing from Congress and the Administration that there needs to be a greater level of accountability, but when it came down to making sure these private providers would be accountable to the men and women who served this country, party politics won out.
The questionable practices used by third party administrators (TPA) of the VA Choice Program, TriWest, and HealthNet, including double billing and improper payment rates, have directly harmed veterans and undermined the capacity of the VA health care system to provide them with the exemplary care that they have earned with their service. Therefore, AFGE respectfully requests that the House Veterans· Affairs Committee and the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations conduct oversight hearings into the contractors billing practices and the VA’s ability to provide effective oversight of these contracts.
While the IG’s memo is written in bureaucratic prose, what it firmly establishes is that in a rush to ensure that Choice program contractors receive favorable treatment and fast reimbursement, the VA has overpaid both TriWest and HealthNet almost $100 million. This amounts to a 5% overpayment error rate just for the contractors’ obvious bookkeeping mistakes. Not included within the scope of the IG’s examination and memo are potentially more substantive and larger overcharging issues relating to the services being provided to veterans. Clearly, the payment error rate, not to mention the potential waste associated with Choice program, is far too high, and we respectfully request that the respective Veterans’ Affairs Committees open an inquiry into the Choice program contracting practices of both VA and its healthcare contractors, and the need for a more robust system of audit and oversight. Choice must not become another government pathway for enriching contractors at the expense of veterans".
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