Posted on Jun 10, 2017
Do you find the term "butter bar" offensive or demeaning?
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As a newly minted O-1 I have no problem with the term, but some of my fellow ENS/LTs have been scolded for using it. I never considered the term a pejorative when I was enlisted and I still don't now that I'm on the officer side. I always thought it was sort of a rite of passage that goes along with being a new Officer. Am I missing something? Do you consider the term disrespectful or demeaning?
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Our society has become soft. That extends also to our new military. It is what it is. We want all our people to EARN there status.
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I do not, but that said, the tone of your voice will either be degrading the term, or making the individual wearing it feel proud
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Who gives a shit about the name butter bar? We need to talk about how vets can be treated better, or about streamlining the medical system, or retirement pay, ect. Who cares if your offended over being called a butter bar... let-er tatter- chip .... ask real questions
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We used to call all the new 0-1s butter bar as a way to welcome them to the platoon or section it was never used to disrespect anyone, just like buck private
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I view the term "butter bar" as an affectionate passing moniker that has potential to be turned into an experienced first lieutenant with good sense and decorum. Some of them melt down to being obstinant, unfocused, and inept, but the majority will become hard-case 1LTs holding good sense and knowing when to use it.
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I would consider it offensive if an enlisted soldier or NCO made the comment out loud to embarrass or show disrespect towards a commissioned officer, as such behavior could be considered conduct unbecoming. There is banter, and then there is disrespectful behavior. There are limits to everything, but I believe among the junior officer corps a little ribbing about a "Butter Bar" is not pejorative but normal healthy teasing.
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I guess I never cared to know the orgin of the name. I can see why FNG would be. Does anyone know what coin the term butter bar besides the obvious that the LT bar looks like a bar of butter?
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