Posted on Jun 10, 2017
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As a newly minted O-1 I have no problem with the term, but some of my fellow ENS/LTs have been scolded for using it. I never considered the term a pejorative when I was enlisted and I still don't now that I'm on the officer side. I always thought it was sort of a rite of passage that goes along with being a new Officer. Am I missing something? Do you consider the term disrespectful or demeaning?
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PO2 Terry Mesenbrink
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If anyone I ever served with had an issue with my use of the term it would've been Ensign Tijiri aboard IKE CVN69. I threatened to break his fingers with a 2' long 1-1/2" Allen wrench if he ever touched the valves on the machinery on my watch station again!
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LTC Stephan Porter
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No!
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CPT Phil Bronner
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I never thought it demeaning as an NCO, nor did I when I was commissioned. I always took it as defining the rank "INSIGNIA"...not the officer WEARING it! In my mind, it's the same as calling the Captain rank insignia "Railroad Tracks".
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SPC Shawn Fay
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Call the waaaaambulance for the buttter bar. Can't stand the heat? Get out of the kitchen.
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Jerry Rivas
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I think it should just motivate a young Lt. into making his 0-2 as fast as can be.
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PO3 Tyler Siers
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what is the. Big deal only an O-1 non mustang would worry about this. Squid jarhead ...etc it's all part of the deal if you can't handle it and see the true meaning behind it get out go to college get your liberal arts degree in being an she haha
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SrA Neil Carroll
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Full bird isn’t offensive, except when used in a formal sense, at which the offender gets his or her ass reamed by a Colonel...lol
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Butter bar for lieutenants, spot for new warrants, slick sleeve for new enlisted recruits, FNG for all of the above, etc. I have never heard anyone scolded for any of these terms, except maybe that last one. I could see it happening with the way the services have been going. Everyone is offended by something, even something so trivial. Military culture has gone through a huge shift as of late and I don't see it slowing down. In some ways, a change is needed. In others, people need to learn to grow some thicker skin. If these things offend folks, they probably shouldn't be in the service, especially when they start to deal with other cultures.
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LTC Multifunctional Logistician
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More often than not, I hear the term coming from more senior officers than I ever do from enlisted. As I was once told, as I was making O4, the reason they aare called 'butter bars' is because they are firm until a little heat and pressure are applied. As with other names; high speed, slack ass.. applied to an individual, there is little wrong with it. Where the problem begins is when it becomes a personal attack or an attack using inappropriate slang. Other than that, I agree, build a thicker skin for this type of work.
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PO3 Eric Sapp
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Nope
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