Posted on Jun 10, 2017
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As a newly minted O-1 I have no problem with the term, but some of my fellow ENS/LTs have been scolded for using it. I never considered the term a pejorative when I was enlisted and I still don't now that I'm on the officer side. I always thought it was sort of a rite of passage that goes along with being a new Officer. Am I missing something? Do you consider the term disrespectful or demeaning?
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CPT Don Williams
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Only when used with an insulting tone of voice.
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CW3 David Covey
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Nope,, 2lt's have been called that for as long as there has been 2lt's. I was once chastised by my Bn XO for calling a 1lt. El Tee. The Major and I had a short discussion about it and I agreed not to use that disparaging term again (taking it as an order)...at least not in his presence. The El Tee just rolled his eyes. Funny thing though, he had no issues calling me Chief...lol
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1st Lt Clinical Nurse
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Everyone say it with me "two tears in a bucket, f#$! It!", if your offended there is a new cry room installed at the university of Utah.
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PO1 Steven Bridge
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Just another attempt by the 'Politically Correct' to police one more area of our lives. IF you're THAT sensitive... You DO NOT belong in the military. And to those who were 'correcting' those who used those terms.... You make my point for me - thank you!
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TSgt David Whitmore
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Each of the various ranks in the military have their own private 'put-down'; just as each of the branches of the service do. Plus, each branch pretends to believe that most members of each of the branches are there to support their own branch.
For people to be offended by such teasing is ridiculous as every member of any of the branches would stand up and fight alongside any and all the other members of our military. No matter what their rank.
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SGM Bill Frazer
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I find it funny, when they are making my cry for their antics.
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Capt Robert Weller
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I fail to see what is derogatory about it at all. If you find this term offensive, then your skin is way to thin to be in the military. There are many worse terms in common use across the military that will continue to be used because it gets the point across. Get over it.
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SSG John Morgan
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No,they earned thier commission and I would'nt demean that UNLESS they were beyond hope.
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COL Deputy G2
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A term of endearment.
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Shane Powell
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folks in the military face death and destruction routinely in their job. horrible nicknames and things of that nature act as a kind of fitness test. If Jody Butterbar has a fit he probably does not need to be in charge of men in combat. but if he can embrace the "insult", turn it to his advantage and own it, he has gone a long way towards gaining respect and also show, in small way, that he has a good chance of withstanding combat stress.
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