Posted on Apr 27, 2014
Do you know any Soldiers/Leaders that come to work smelling like a bottle of Jack Daniels? What are your actions if you experience this?
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I don't tolerate indiscipline and would immediately report it higher. As an NCO it is my duty to inform the next higher echelon. I have had it where Leaders within my unit have alcohol on their breath at PT formation....this is unacceptable.
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There is really nothing more irritating to me than running behind someone that smells like a brewery. If one of my Soldiers were to come to formation smelling like alcohol, the first time I would ask them when they stopped drinking. If I dont like the answer then I would have my commander refer them to the Staff duty desk where they have breathalizers there, and see what there BAC is. I am in Korea where drinking seems to be the cure for everything good and bad. The second time there would be no questions. with the authorized BAC in Korea of .05 I have no patience for that stuff. Now I am not a hippocrite.. I use to power drink, but only on the weekends and I would limit myself to two beers on the weekdays. I have since quit drinking now for almost 7 years so I know what it is like. You just have to have self control. Remember when you go out drinking you make a conscious decision to make impaired decisions.
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1SG,
Are these portable breathalyzers certified quarterly? I used to be a Traffic Investigations NCOIC in Korea and had to certify my PB's(Portable Breathalyzers) myself. Its a very tedious process and if not done correctly and quarterly, can provide false readings(possibly from reminicent test or failure to purge correctly) Just take precautions as these PB tests are not admissable in court(if the soldier was smart) You can always take a memorandum to the Provost Marshalls Office and have them tested of the Intoxylizer 5000(Court Admissable) if they wanted to try court martial and didnt accept the NJP(Article 15). Hope I could shed some light from a Law Enforcement prospective.
Are these portable breathalyzers certified quarterly? I used to be a Traffic Investigations NCOIC in Korea and had to certify my PB's(Portable Breathalyzers) myself. Its a very tedious process and if not done correctly and quarterly, can provide false readings(possibly from reminicent test or failure to purge correctly) Just take precautions as these PB tests are not admissable in court(if the soldier was smart) You can always take a memorandum to the Provost Marshalls Office and have them tested of the Intoxylizer 5000(Court Admissable) if they wanted to try court martial and didnt accept the NJP(Article 15). Hope I could shed some light from a Law Enforcement prospective.
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Worst come to Worst, Blood Draw w/ Memorandum to the military Hospital always works too.
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These are just used to detect alcohol. If there is alcohol present then they would be escorted to the MP's for a breathalyzer or blood if necessary
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Maybe they just spilled some on their uniform? Or cleaned up a spill WITH their uniform?
Seriously though, they need a referral (self or command) to ASAP for assistance.
Seriously though, they need a referral (self or command) to ASAP for assistance.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
I guess alcohol abuse control is still a work in progress in the Military. I don't know that we were ever that bad but I would say that it was not uncommon in my day that we were probably Impaired when we showed up for work. Booze is a drug and it is abused way to much. I would hope that the command would assist the servicemember with the appropriate treatment.
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When I was a platoon leader, I noticed a couple of my Marines coming out of the Class VI store on a weekday evening carrying a bunch of beer. We did not have PT scheduled for the next morning (at that time we were only doing PT M-W-F mornings). I called my Plt Sgt and told him to muster the men the next morning at 0530 for PT. Many smelled like a brewery so I took them on a "death run". After that we did PT every weekday morning and I really never had a "weekday drinking problem" with my Marines. I inspected their shaves every morning before PT which was my excuse to get close enough to smell any alcohol on their breath. If I sensed a hung over Marine. I ran the crap out of all of them. Peer pressure and NCO leadership usually did the rest.
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Good Stuff sir, however in todays softer military, that kinda stuff wouldnt fly. Damn I miss old school Military.
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