Do you need WLC to be appointed to Corporal?

Ssd1 is a requirement for promotion, as of now wlc is not. Come 1 Oct 2015 it will be for sgt. Your commander signs a 4187 to laterally promote from Specialist to corp. So what ever his requirements are.

I have no idea if you need WLC to be appointed to Corporal. While I was in Germany, the big push was to catch up everyone in PLDC. All Staffs were being pressed to go, then SGTs and so forth until every NCO had the course completed.

Gotta understand that was many moons for me. I took it in 1983, or 1984. I retired in 1988, so it has been awhile. And, for me to answer that question, somewhere along the line, I would be lying.

I just checked last month's cutoff, 37F is 39 points... That is an automatic promotion once you become promotable. 39 points can be achieved by passing just your APFT. 38B on the other hand, has NA FOR E-5 points, which could mean two things; either you can only reclass to it as an E-5, or you automatically become a SGT upon completion of AIT.

I think you have to wait a year before you go from CPL to SGT if I am not mistaking. Someone please correct me if I am wrong on that one.

Don't worry about becoming a CPL. If you've had the SPC rank for long enough, you should be looking at E-5 stripes anyhow. Remember, you don't need to be a CPL before becoming a SGT and most MOS's and Units don't even authorize CPL's in their ranks.

You're real question should be "I've been an E-4 for x months. How do I get my SGT stripes?"

'Need' is always going to be dead end street when you are talking almost anything in the Army. You are going to want and it will probably extremely hard to do without but the Army will always find a way to get what it actually needs without you having the course, time, rank, ETC. The problem for you right now is that the Army is in low ebb of needing corporal...or anyone for that matter...so you will really WANT this.

Don't worry about Corporal. Just take charge and demonstrate the ability to lead. Always strive for the higher promotion!

To answer the post's question, no, you do not need WLC to be a CPL.

It is great that you have the ambition to move up in the ranks, but to me it seems like you are looking at the rank progression all wrong. I once knew a CSM who, when hearing NCO ranks referred to as pay grade, would freak out. A pay grade is just that, but the rank is a badge of honor; something to be respected. Being a Specialist isn't anything to sneeze at. I wore the rank of SPC for 3 years before I even went to the promotion board. We all want to progress, the only thing I ask is that it is for the right reasons.

No.

I don't believe you need WLC to be promoted to CPL, the regulation for Promotions is AR 600-8-19 and it states in regards to your situation this:


-All lateral appointments will be issued on a DA Form 4187.-
-A SPC will be appointed to CPL when the Soldier is assigned and works in a SGT position. The position must be the Soldier’s PMOS or CPMOS. This includes SPC who cannot otherwise be promoted when they do not meet the TIS requirement, or were not considered for promotion.
-Soldiers will normally retain the rank of CPL and perform the duties of an NCO; however, the appointment authority may laterally appoint CPL to SPC without the individual’s consent for:
(1) Demonstrated inefficiency in technical, supervisory, or other requirements of the MOS.
(2) Significant loss of qualifications, including medical inability to perform the duties of CPL in that MOS as required in DA Pam 611–21.
(3) Disciplinary action under UCMJ or criminal convictions that adversely affects the Soldier’s ability to perform the duties of a CPL

The above is coming from section 7-11 Lateral Promotions pg 82.

This is from about 3 minutes of google searching. Check it out it may help a tad.