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With all the rhetoric about Russian collusion and no evidence at the present to validate the accusations.

1. Exactly what does Russia gain with a Trump Administration that affects our National Security? Foreign interference is common in elections even by the U.S.

2. Why do you believe the Trump administration would conspire with Russia?

3. Do you believe Vice President Pence or Congress would go along with this idea?
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MSG Bill Carthan
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I still say Trump is an Unpatriotic, five time draft dodger, and unfit to be President. All the information that has recently surfaced shines much needed light on a white house is in complete Turmoil.
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PO1 Dennis Herdina
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Trump will throw anybody under the bus with or without a reason. he pleases himself no one else matters to him what so ever. He has proved that repeatedly before even running for office. Consider this every single time Trump has said he supports someone 100% That indiv was either charged or indicted or is under investigation by either Mueller or some other law enforcement agency. Even the people who know him best in NYC consider him to be a thief, a con man and a grifter and those are the good comments. The whole administration in my view reeks of corruption except in very indiv cases. He lies repeatedly then lies about what he lied about later. I am not a psych person but I can damn sure spot a grifter when I see one. Trump would be better off running a 3 shell monte card game on the sidewalk in front of Trump tower or that NEROIAN palace he has in Florida. 330 million people in this country and the best we could find was TRUMP? I am no fan of the Democrats or Republicans and I did vote in the last election and have not missed one since I became old enough to vote AND I PAID MY DUES OVER 26 years serving in the AF for 6 and the Navy as a corpsman with Marines. This President is an absolute disgrace He wants to be a KING and rule by royal decree. He long ago forfeited any right to be a world leader. The damage he has done FAR outweighs any good he has done
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PO3 Thomas Eliason
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Try reading Liars, Leakers and Liberals, by Judge Jeanine Pirro, see if it changes your mind......
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SPC Chris Ison
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This is an old question by the date. But let us revisit it a year and a half later.

1. Hillary, for whatever you want to think of her is an iron bitch. She would have Issued the sanctions against Russia that congress has already approved. She would not have Surrendered our position in North Korea, nor would she have backed out of the Iran deal. The biggest thing Putin Gets from Trump being president is an ignorant idiot who has no idea about foreign trade, economics, foreign policy, and public policy. So the damage Trump is doing to the U.S. by dividing the ignorant and the smart, playing to the idea of white nationalism, and demonizing a whole segment of our population is enough for it to be a victory in and of itself. But, then we have Crimea, which Russia has illegally annexed, and the Ukraine is an American Treaty partner. My National Guard unit is a sister unit of the Ukrainian military, that is how close of a relationship WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE. And that is gone.

2. Trump, because he has filed for bankruptcy 6 times, is a pariah in the us banking industry, having to forfeit all of his holding in his casinos to the banks. SO he has had to borrow money form Russia, and Russian banks in order to continue to fiance his real estate ventures.

3. Congers is going along with this because he is willing to do whatever they want, they send him a tax bill that has made our deficit worse and he signed it. They have increased military spending, of which NONE of that money actual goes to you or me, and it goes directly into military contractor's pockets, etc. He has rolled back the asbestos rules and now asbestos can be used in construction again, who cares about mesothelioma right? Obama care will take care of that, oh wait no it won't because they are gutting that too. Number one producer of asbestos? Russian Federation...

REPUBLICan, for the government.

DEMOCRAcyT, for the people.

Funny how in a country that is supposed to be free the LIBERALS are the bad guys...

You know why the liberals are the bad guys? Simple the NRA has all the gun nuts convinced we want to take their guns. Has all the pro lifers afraid we are forcing women to have abortions and eating the babies, and most important has all the Christians believing we are sin loving hedonists that are pushing a gay agenda to turn the frogs gay using chem-trails (i heard that one on infowars).

All we want as liberals is for police officers to stop summarily executing black men. For kids to stop getting their hands on assault rifles and shooting up their schools because people are too ignorant of their kids actions (both the bullies and the bullied). And for everyone to have the same access to the same legal protections, be it to get married or to order a fucking cake.
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CPL Gregory Ellis
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You asked 1. Exactly what does Russia gain with a Trump Administration that affects our National Security? Foreign interference is common in elections even by the U.S. My response: Russia gained a pseudo seat at the table, since Trump has been in office all actions against Russia have been hindered or curtailed to one degree or another. They also got an advocate that is constantly trying to deflect attention away from them at every turn. Just this morning a new report about hackers linked to Russia came out from Microsoft. But since even before Putin took this Presidents virginity in Helsinki, not a peep or tweet about how the nation can go about addressing this continuous intrusion into our society.

2. Why do you believe the Trump administration would conspire with Russia? I think they know they have a person who they can manipulate and control. A person who is just self centered enough that all you have to do is say or do one thing that pisses him off and he will continue to focus all his energy toward that one thing rather than have his focus be on where the fire really is, this man has expressed more than 4,000 lies or misstatements since he has been in office. That is not to even begin to count the statements and actions he committed before he took office.

3. Do you believe Vice President Pence or Congress would go along with this idea? No I do not, but they already are complicit in this by not calling him to task on his lies, mis-statements and other actions he has committed to since becoming President. Because they are afraid of his Trump supporters who are the only people he has in his corner.
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SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales
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Just saw the video a few days ago where Trump said that if "Patriotic soldiers were not paid, that the National debt would be paid of", then he continued to say something to the likes of "Are they really patriotic if they get paid to be Soldiers?" We are Soldiers whose main duties are to defend the Country, Constitution, our people and our way of life.. and possibly many government buildings. It is the Secret Service's job to protect and defend the President. Why all of a sudden are we having such questionable dealings and open dialogues with Putin?? I give the Russian people more credit than their leader. I take personal insult from any president that criticizes or minimizes the role of the American Service member, when they themselves never served or draft dodged by medical means. You can have all the faith you want in what you may have voted for. As Service members i believe we were created to defend the country from tyranny and dictatorships.. you know, the kind that start removing key personnel from top government positions because they don't agree with your plans and threaten your standing as the country's current leader. Maybe you haven't noticed that he wants to have parades, just like Kim Jong Un and Putin. Wants to start executing drug dealers, just like Duterte. When you hold a military parade, it should be in recognition of its military members and not a boast of power. We as Americans are better than that and should show a bit to humility when it comes to the mighty strength we hold as country.. I am very middle in my political beliefs. So i can say i am unbiased when it comes to our country's leaders. I wasn't too happy with Obamas move on rescuing Bergdahl, and then pardoning the spy whatever-the-heck-his-name-was "Manning". All that was a sh#t show. I also would never have voted for Killary, too many people suicide around her. Nuff said.. many of you from either side are too blind to see what your selected leaders are doing and forget that your country comes first.
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SPC Chris Ison
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This is what Russia gains you ignorant fuck.
1. Trump did NOT implement the sanctions, Sought by President Obama for the illegal annexation of Crimea, and congress approved.
2. He stopped Military aid to the Ukraine, ensuring that the Ukrainians would not have the best equipment to defend Crimea.
3. By not investigating the collusion and Russian Interference, he has allowed Russia to continue to interfere.

One has to ask oneself who is better at opposing someone like Putin, an experienced Politician who understands the Job through observation and conversation of the day to day activities, trained in Foreign Policy as secretary of state, and understands How congress and the senate work having been a member of the senate for 8 years.

Or a man with 6 bankruptcies, and a second rate tv star, who has the vocabulary of an eight year old, and the temperament of a four year old?

What really floors me, is this:

In the military we expect everyone, even general officers, to have SOME fucking decorum, and President Trump has None.

He has repeatedly insulted veterans, either by calling them failures for being captured, or stealing money from the charitable contributions raised in their name, calling people with PTSD weak, etc.
Claiming he knows more about how to be a soldier forma JUNIOR ROTC program from high school, which he went to FOR BEING A FUCK UP. And he dodged the fucking draft.

If this guy was a democrat you motherfuckers would be clamoring for his head, but because he is a republican, and they are all about spending money on military contractors, and equipment soldiers don't need, under the ideology of supporting the troops, you fuckers follow like sheep.
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SFC Iir
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I think America has been thrown under busses for years by several administration. Sitting President giving nuke tech to China after they were his biggest campaign contributors. When that hit the news the president had an intern to throw under the bus. President giving nuke tech to Iran as a peace gesture or popularity or something. A former President endorses a person under federal investigation rather than supporting someone that is not main party. Presidents encouraging home loans to people who cannot afford to pay them back because it makes them popular. Presidents who nominate judges who ”legislate from the bench” because they don't care why there are multiple branches of the government. A President that arms cartels and ISIS. I don't think this one is more likely to throw us under the bus than the others.
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CPO Engineering Geologist
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He has already been far more interested in taking care of America and Americans than our last two presidents. There has not been any evidence that Trump or his Administration conspired wirh Russia to throw the election. I also feel Pence is an expressly honorable man; however,!i feel most of Congress would sell their own mother if the price was right.
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Seriously? What planetary news are you listening to? Were you sleeping during Helsinki? Are you aware of the Trump administration's elimination of multiple protections for military personnel from predatory lenders? Trump rolled back pollution and toxic waste controls so more Americans are going to die and taxpayers will pay millions more to treat those who get sick. The tax cut for the rich? Where is that big pay raise he said corporations would pass on to the working class?
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Lt Col Jeff Richey
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Wait until Mueller gets through with him! I’m a retired LtCol, 32 years and the disrespect he’s shown towards the military is disgusting! He’s a draft dodging traitor that will be IMPEACHED!!!
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Sounds like it was a good ride for you Colonel. Will
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A1C Isa Kocher
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every day there are detailed articles about the significance and insignificance of the facts we have and the facts we don't have

too pretend that it's not been documented in great detail. including its strategic significance is is a disservice to our nation

it's unquestionably strategic.

Russia has brigades of troops and and whole research communities devoted to the cyber assault and sabotage of usa infrastructure, our intelligence infrastructure, our military strategic position

using weaknesses and inadequacies in our cyber intel, they invaded gorgia, abkhasiya, ossetia, crimea and ukraine and occupy those countries and routinely engage in assassinations and actions against opponents including heads of state, and locked down whole economies of NATO allies - don't dare say, "well the USa does too"

My safety and my family matter. my country matters. embracing our enemies and letting them literally get away with murder is not how we make the USa better - denial is a moral and mental abrogation of patriotism

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/trump-michael-cohen-trump-tower-meeting/566303/
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