Posted on Dec 6, 2020
SPC 11 C Indirect Fire A Infantryman
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Do you salute officers if they are on a vehicle that is not properly identified and has no colors or standards?
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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You always salute when you recognize an Officer.
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CPL Joseph Elinger
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WO1 Ricardo Eva
As such, I wouldn't salute a known Officer in civies if not in a clearly secured location.
In Germany, during duty hrs, a coworker was driving me to another city / base for a medical appointment.
My SSgt asked curiosly why we changed into civies (to drive his POV). I responded: Simple security, when traveling off post without need for a uniform. Security. It was in line with my PCS Briefing before my 1st overseas assignment. Whenever possible, I prefer to "err on the side of caution" regulation.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
CSM Darieus ZaGara
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That is unit dependant. Many commanders require salute unless deployed.
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WO1 Ricardo Eva
WO1 Ricardo Eva
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CPL Joseph Elinger - Agreed. On working as a SPO (Security and Protective Officer) for a couple of high ranking officers visiting a location flagged as a hot or "unfriendly to americans" (same as in combat) you want to be in civvies AND DO NOT, for security, salute an officer, if the officer is hard headed, as many, specially newby officers, tend to be, you try to explain the why, if they still order you to salute, then you do but you may want to bring that up to your next higher level officer or to your security officer as well.
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WO1 Ricardo Eva
WO1 Ricardo Eva
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And, then again, there are the "other", ballsy officers who really DARE the enemy not only to identify but also to try to do something to / or about them...I was having a reminiscing and fun discussion with my Desert Shield/Storm comrades here on this forum and we were reminiscing about both Gen. Schwarzkopf and Pagonis...both we're constantly at the front lines, actually in view of the revolutionary guard and, if you remember Gen Pagonis, he'd stick a HUGE RED ostrich feather to his hat so that the "guard" knew who he was and actually ride his horse all the way to where the guard had a direct line of sight on him!!! we had a lot of fun with him on the front lines over there...
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Maj John Bell
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How do you know if they are an officer? Because you know them, I presume. If you know it is an officer, yes, you salute.
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SPC 11 C Indirect Fire A Infantryman
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So if I don’t recognize that such individual is an officer Im expected to salute cause the vehicle in question was a POV and no rank was visible anywhere and I wasn’t sure so I whipped that salute anyways
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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SPC (Join to see) - If you don't know who is in a vehicle, you just don't salute. It's pretty obvious - when you recognize an officer, salute. If you see a car and you don't know who is in it, why would you salute? I don't just salute random cars. If I knew it was like the CG yeah ok then. But if you don't know if someone is an officer, you wouldn't salute them.
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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No, that is not what I said. Your original question implies that you know the person is an officer. Is that true, or not true in your hypothetical scenario.

If true, you know the individual is an officer, and if your branch customs require you to salute, you salute. The presence or absence of identifiers, colors, or standards is irrelevant

If not true, and you don't know that the person is an officer, AND there are no identifiers, colors, or standards that would indicate the person is an officer, There is no obligation for you to render a salute.

If you do not know the person is an officer, the presence of identifiers, colors, or standards should cause you to presume the person is an officer, nd then you should render salute.
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Maj John Bellthe second I apologize for not clarifying that part my scenario was meant to imply that it is not know that the person in the vehicle is an officer or not due to the lack of identifiers colors or standards this answers my question and I appreciate your patience
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I pay respects to my superiors with salutes, if I recognize them...just like I pay respects to my subordinates by standing up (when I’m seated). Respect is mutual....IMO
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