Posted on Feb 2, 2017
Do you think illegal immigrants should be able to use welfare/public assistance?
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Considering all the illegal immigrants in this country, do you think they should be able to use welfare or public assistance considering they aren't citizens and that many working Americans are denied welfare or public assistance.
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Posted 9 y ago
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SPC Randy Torgerson
SSG Edward Tilton - It wouldn't cost the taxpayers any money at all if the government would stop ramming new entitlements down our throats....
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MCPO Roger Collins
Walmart continues to pay on average, over 75% of the premium cost and 60% of total health care costs for associates covered under our medical plans. Our comprehensive benefits plans also offer to eligible associates: Medical plans starting at $23.20 per pay period. Dental plan.
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As has already been pointed out, the key word here is "Illegal". I am now and always have been opposed to any illegal alien receiving any benefits from our local, state or national governments. It is not rational to reward someone who has broken our laws. It's not just that they crossed our border without properly obtaining permission, they use false identification to obtain services.
By providing these services, the government is in fact rewarding bad behavior and puts a major drain on tax payers.
By providing these services, the government is in fact rewarding bad behavior and puts a major drain on tax payers.
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SSG Edward Tilton
You mean like coming here on a Student Visa and working as a fashion model, that would be illegal.
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MCPO Roger Collins
Yes, if your statement remotely true. What a bunch of flat out liars on the left. Disgusting!
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SSG Edward Tilton
She didn't come here on a Student Visa? She didm"t make $60,000 while she was here on that Visa?
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MCPO Roger Collins
No, show us where your information came from. It's not consistent with my research. Not her earning, which is irrelevant, but the student VISA.
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After they pay a 50% tax on all remittances to their country of origin! Then, they could be considered for public assistance!
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MCPO Roger Collins
And that addresses one of the real problems. There are many illegals that get paid in cash, pay no taxes, use taxpayer funded public and social facilities, while sending a significant amount of cash to their country of origin. Not to mention the other costs to the legal citizens of the USA.
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The Facts About the Individual Tax Identification Number (ITIN)
The Individual Tax Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to ensure that people – including unauthorized immigrants – pay taxes even if they do not have a Social Security number and regardless of their immigration status.
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No
Why should people be receiving or entitled to benefits that you had to enlist and possibly deploy/get shot at/blown up/a haircut/pass a pt test for? There are tens of millions of people receiving in essence BAS. They get it for absolutely nothing. There are so many more getting essentially BAH for nothing. I'm not overly familiar with the cash payments system, but I know they exist.
Why would any sane and rational person give incentive for people to break the law by providing them with benefits when they choose to do so.
If you knew you'd get a pay raise by giving the universal salute and being drunk on duty, you'd be more likely to do it. It's the same with creating essentially a bonus for breaking the law.
I've often commented that the national guard and reserve could secure the border through their training cycles. Be more useful than some things I've seen.
Why should people be receiving or entitled to benefits that you had to enlist and possibly deploy/get shot at/blown up/a haircut/pass a pt test for? There are tens of millions of people receiving in essence BAS. They get it for absolutely nothing. There are so many more getting essentially BAH for nothing. I'm not overly familiar with the cash payments system, but I know they exist.
Why would any sane and rational person give incentive for people to break the law by providing them with benefits when they choose to do so.
If you knew you'd get a pay raise by giving the universal salute and being drunk on duty, you'd be more likely to do it. It's the same with creating essentially a bonus for breaking the law.
I've often commented that the national guard and reserve could secure the border through their training cycles. Be more useful than some things I've seen.
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SSG Edward Tilton
Deported To Mexico, US Veterans Are Stuck In A War South Of The Border
Task & Purpose’s senior staff writer Adam Linehan spent five days in Juárez, Mexico, with U.S. veterans forced out of the country they once served.
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MAJ (Join to see)
SSG Edward Tilton - Alright smart guy. There is a provision for the air force within the constitution. "provide for a common defense".
I'm sure your service was just fine. I don't respect your outlook on the US becoming a place where 30 or more million people should invade it at will to be rewarded with benefits. No country can support 7.35 billion people. It's not this country's job to provide food, clothing, healthcare, mobile telephones, or anything else to everyone and anyone who feels like breaking the law to show up. You're entitled to an opinion. We as the seeming majority on RP are entitled to disagree with you. Apparently many people in the US feel the same way. Look who won the presidential election. Tens of millions of people who cover roughly 80% of the surface area of the country who do not agree with you. Thanks for your service, no thanks for your opinion.
I've read that roughly 700,000 decided to overstay their visa's in the US in 2016. 700,000. That's larger than the active army (I'm pretty sure it is without looking). You think it's acceptable for a group of people larger than the standing army to just arrive and stay at will? If I commanded the army and dropped 700,000 troops in any country, pretty darn sure history would call that an invasion.
I'm sure your service was just fine. I don't respect your outlook on the US becoming a place where 30 or more million people should invade it at will to be rewarded with benefits. No country can support 7.35 billion people. It's not this country's job to provide food, clothing, healthcare, mobile telephones, or anything else to everyone and anyone who feels like breaking the law to show up. You're entitled to an opinion. We as the seeming majority on RP are entitled to disagree with you. Apparently many people in the US feel the same way. Look who won the presidential election. Tens of millions of people who cover roughly 80% of the surface area of the country who do not agree with you. Thanks for your service, no thanks for your opinion.
I've read that roughly 700,000 decided to overstay their visa's in the US in 2016. 700,000. That's larger than the active army (I'm pretty sure it is without looking). You think it's acceptable for a group of people larger than the standing army to just arrive and stay at will? If I commanded the army and dropped 700,000 troops in any country, pretty darn sure history would call that an invasion.
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SSG Edward Tilton
Article I of the Constitution makes the President Commander of the Army, the Navy and the various militias, no mention of an Air Force. That is why we didn't have one and why the Marines are part of the Navy. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean you have to be nasty. I live on the border, that hill in the picture is visible from my yard. You must live somewhere horrible to have all of those immigrants to deal with. Glad I'm not you
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MAJ (Join to see)
Yes and the air force started out life as the army air corps. Wrong again Ed.
I'm glad you aren't me as well. Wouldn't want to be a snowflake crying about safe spaces. You be you, I'll keep charging hard.
I'm glad you aren't me as well. Wouldn't want to be a snowflake crying about safe spaces. You be you, I'll keep charging hard.
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No! Entitlements are already a big drain on the country's GDP. Thanks to the last administration's DACA act and leniency on our Immigration Laws, Illegals are also drawing Medicaid from the ACA (Obamacare) and Section 8 housing. We pay for that and it cost billions a year. I'd rather pay for Public Assistance for low income Americans and Our Veterans. Not Illegals.
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