Posted on Feb 2, 2017
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Considering all the illegal immigrants in this country, do you think they should be able to use welfare or public assistance considering they aren't citizens and that many working Americans are denied welfare or public assistance.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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Not only no, but HELL F##CKING NO!! If anything they need to be rounded up and shipped back to where they came form. What part of illegal is legal??
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CW5 Ivan Murdock
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No
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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Hell no, for starters they are trespassing in our country to begin with, so they need to leave of their own free will or be deported. Secondly, as a sovereign nation, we get to choose who we accept as citizens. If you can't feed or house yourself, then you should not be here even as a legal immigrant. We have enough of our own losers, we don't need to import any.
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PVT Thomas Kielar
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None of them should have them!
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Somehow it has become unacceptable to put Americans before everyone else. I'd love to help the world...as soon as we fix our problems at home.
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Immigrants in the country illegally CANNOT apply or receive welfare/ public assistance. So, no, they shouldnt. Congratulation on asking such a redundant question.
Only citizens can receive these benefits. For example, children who are US born citizens, regardless of who their parents are.
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Undocumented immigrants CANNOT use welfare/ public assistance....
try again.
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SPC Randy Torgerson
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Your confusing what they are NOT supposed to be able to do with what many of them do...... I'm just saying....
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Should Illegals be able to use welfare/public assistance? In a word, "No". That being said, I believe we should expand the temporary worker visa program, so that those who wish to come here and work, are able to do so. There is clearly a market for their services. Additionally, those on worker visas would be bound to have taxes extorted from them... just like the rest of us. So, yes, the Illegals should be fired, and those available jobs should be made available to those on temporary work visas.
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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Agree with the guest worker aspect, but included must be a tracking mechanism in case they run. Crack down on the businesses hiring illegals illegally.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Agreed! Allow temporary work visas, while eliminating illegal employment.
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SPC James Vollrath
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Hell No, why is the word "illegal" so hard to understand, get caught doing something illegal and see who pays the penalty
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This is an example where legality and compassion collide. When a person illegally enters to the US, they do not have U.S citizen rights and benefits. It does not matter if US has enough resource or not. The law is the law. However, most illegal immigrants come here for better lives. They risk their lives to come here. If they could have decent lives in their own countries, they would not have come here. They hide and work in the shadows so they can support themselves and provide food back home. Human migration has been for thousand of years. They do work that many Americans do not want with lower minimum wages. Therefore, it is hard for me to say, "F you" and "go back home". On top of that, illegal immigrants contribute to the US economy. We often demand cheap food and produce, but we do not want to work in harsh environment like picking up fruits and chicken factory. Illegal immigrants fill the void of this job vacancy. There are few programs for foreigner workers. However, the regulations are lengthy and complicated. Many employers do not want to do extra work. So, if we want to condemn and deny help these illegal immigrants, shall we enforce the law and punish these employers? These employers technically enable these illegal immigrants to move here and stay here. We have and enforce the laws that punish prostitute payers. I have not heard on the news how the law enforcement come after these employers. As long as US is greatly richer than many neighboring countries and some employers hire these illegal immigrants, we always have illegal immigration problems. On top of these problems, there is a public health and safety. If these illegal immigrants do not have enough clean food and shelter, they might be a threat to public health and safety. Think of infection diseases, drugs, and petty thefts. So, to answer your original question, it is more complicated than just about enough resources.
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PO3 Donald Murphy - You raised a couple of interesting and valid points. I am little confused though. Do you generally agree with my post? Or are you criticizing some of my points? Thanks.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
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PO1 (Join to see) - I generally agree but am criticizing the belief that we as a nation cannot live without illegal labor. We can. We just choose not to. Were farmer A and farmer B to have police on their land preventing illegal hiring and *IF* both farmers could not find Americans willing to pick fruit for $7.00 per hour, are we to assume that both farmers would hang up their hats and go out of business? I'm thinking both farmers would be told to try $7.50 per hour. $7.75 per hour, etc.
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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When the rest of the world pays their own way, perhaps we can do more for our own people. $20T in Debt and trillions in unfunded mandates and you want more. AMAZING! As for the illegals working here they are breaking the law in several ways, I have absolutely no problem with legal immigrants, or even those that come here for the pay and temporary opportunities. Just come up with a guest worker program that ensures proper safety for them and a means of sending them home in the interim. All local costs of taking care of them and their families should be borne by the hiring of the guest workers.
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I totally agree with you. The mentality of scarcity is not good for economy and the people. Unfortunately, this is what many Americans believe. Many politicians and companies exploit this belief for their own gains.
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