Do you think illegal immigrants should be able to use welfare/public assistance?

Your right to a point. But I don't blame the recipients, I blame the Government for its poor handling of the programs.

Sometimes the people identified by CPT Tom Trimbol are referred to as citizens.

SPC Micheli Neal - I think everyone takes action based on information. If "said" government promised citizenship then the person should get citizenship, period. But look at the fine print and what do you see?

SPC Randy Torgerson - There are many versions of fine print, most saying "we will stick it to you, so buyer beware!" lol Now, let's say being an immigrant is like being a home owner and the home owner finds out they are not allowed to sell their home for 100 years because that clause was written in the fine print, the home owner and all his/her buddies are going to call foul on the bank. So, going back to my original post, I don't think the public assistance issue lies so much with the immigrants than it does with the government. I mean, how are you going to let someone serve and fight for your country and freedom or spend several years in your country paying taxes then deny them food when they need it? Mind you, I don't defend those that have lived under the radar. But those who have complied by the laws regarding their status don't deserve to starve, IMO. If the government was so concerned with the illigals' status, then the government needs to make it clear that the illegals have a timeframe (6 months to a year) to become legal or get gone.
Also seems to me the government is only concerned with illegals during times of presidential elections and swaying the vote towards one extreme or the other. This last particular election was spurned by hate and intolerance which were readily embraced by those individuals unable to cope they will no longer be the majority. It's also interesting while ppl are all up in arms about illegals getting any kind of public assistance, the fact is that the majority and largest welfare fraud commiters have not been illegal immigrants, but red-blooded white Americans.

SPC (Join to see) - Umm fine print is fine print. If you sign something that says you can't sell your house for a 100 years, then you shouldn't whine....

You better stop with the throwing of Americans being the problem. Nobody said I blamed illegal immigrants for attempting to get or actually getting welfare. I only blame our representatives who have abandon American citizens. And its the talk like you just stated that is going to get Trump elected again because you fail to see the American citizens points. If you want rational talk about immigration, then you need to remember who grants these benefits in the first place. I agree there is a fraud problem all across the spectrum of government. But you have to stop blaming American citizens for the problems that illegal immigration cause... Yes there are contributing factors on all sides. But it is NOT equal blame.

First, I would agree about your "not whining" policies, but such practices are being proven to be unlawful and disturbing. For example, there is currently an investigation underway regarding homes that were sold with the stipulated the owners could not re-sell to POC. Some owners were unaware of and are now upset by that kind of small print.

Second, I did not blame American citizens, I blame the American government, because it IS the government who sets up these laws, fine print and all. The buck starts and stops there. Inconsistencies and all. Oh, I see the "American citizens" point very well.
The "American citizens" you refer to like to forget how most came here as immigrants. But that i a topic for another discussion.

Please refer to my original post if you wish to further this discussion. Good day.

And you sir, are on a different path then most of the rest of us. Dreamers? Are you for real? What about my dreams? I dream that we don't willy nilly give our country away. I'm not saying "round them up and throw them out" but lets be real here. The current conditions need to stop! The border needs to be secure. The government won't let my girlfriend from the Philippines come here just to visit because her financial situation is not great. And I would 100% take care of her no matter what. But sure, you side with the dreamers while the love of my love can't come here to visit unless I marry her. That's real fair right?

No bias in his statements. Did Trump write the question? Bias. We hate the American natives that migrated to North America? immigrants vs illegal aliens is what is being discussed here.

Thank you, Sgt. Brettell for your insightful commentary. I, too, feel a more humane approach needs to be had before throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Insufficient information. What reason was given for the denial? Another point, the employees do not pay into unemployment, the employer covers it all.

My comment is specifically about applying for public assistance not unemployment which is different process. Employer managed to squash those benefits as well. "Paying into the system" refers to years of taxes paid on property, sales tax etc. on a 3 figure salary. Public assistance is supposed to be available for working Americans who have fallen on hard times based on New Deal legislation. That is not the public assistance program I encountered. Yet those who have never paid their taxes get whatever they ask for including housing assistance. It's infuriating from my perspective. The only reason we could get food was because my children qualified for services. Without kids, there would not have been any food either. Thats the reality of public assistance system that I encountered.

You don't qualify for public assistance if you receive unemployment. Pulbic assistance is not geared towards ppl falling on hard times. It's geared towards ppl who's income is 150% below the poverty line. Just because you "pay into the system" doesn't give you an automatical withdrawal options. I see refugees every day getting assistance, yet, at five months pregnant and two months behind in rent, I couldn't get a dime in food stamps. I had to depend on the charity of local church. For public assistance, your really need to destitute. But there are some green card "illigal" immigrants who are actual veterans, and I feel if you serve this country, you should be eligible for some help when you need it.

Only in extreme medical emergencies. Then, ship them back to wherever they came from