Posted on Oct 19, 2016
Do you think it is appropriate for retired military leaders to publicly endorse political candidates?
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Flag Officers are usually smart enough to stay out because of the possibility of underhanded retaliation by Loose cannons...
Field Grade Officers can usually get away with expressing personal feelings...
Field Grade Officers can usually get away with expressing personal feelings...
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Absolutely! Yesterday's Flag Officers were steadfastly pro morale with dedication to the welfare that gave pride in leadership as the tempo of competence flowed easily down the chai of command. With today's PC social engineering and self serving promotion hungry political guided conscripts of this administration we have steadily declined from traditionally formed pride of service to a mix of inconsistencies to individuals who work to destroy team work and make special interest a priority including this divisional concept built by a PC bunch of change artists! We are weak in readiness, planes so old that money for maintenance isn't available, reenlistments past 20 years is in question with a flow of knowledge never to be recouped, a Navy as small as 1915, waste on uniform changes seem to become a top priority and not people and pride of that once "Can do or reason why."
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As a Citizen and not using Rank/Enlisted paygrade, all have a right to express an opinion. Once you bring these aspects into the political realm you are representing the Branch of service. It is not only inappropriate but can lead to legal concerns. Observe Gen. Keene as he speaks, he goes only so far as a consultant to the issue but never endorses or engages in rhetoric which is baised.
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As with everything, times have changed since I entered active duty in 1981, so I've been called 'old school' on a lot of my opinions and I am sure my opinion on this matter will fall into that category. I am of the opinion that we in the military have the right to an opinion on anything, but do not have the right to voice that opinion in a public forum on matters such as political candidates running for office when using our military affiliation. The GO's who use their military rank in connection with their political views are showing the country and the world how 'unstable' the force is if their opinions are not met with the right candidate getting the job. Some may throw the BS flag, but let's just say that Hillary Clinton were to get into office and see that 'X' amount of GO's and Flag Officers were against her being POTUS; how would that effect her treatment and trust in the military she is CinC of? Visa versa is true and it will send a clear signal to our enemies, both foreign and domestic, just how fragile the relationship is. My two cents plus a few bucks will get you a foo foo coffee at Starbucks, but the electee who wins will be CinC whether we like it or not and your 'opinion' can also be construed as disrespect. Boy I'm happy to be retired...
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CW4 Richard A. Dropik
That is the way every soldier should look at the situation. A good point that comes from this current upcoming election. Those that voice their support for the most HORRIBLE person on earth, knowing good and well what the world knows of him also, the DEVIL in a mans clothes, ought to feel quite ridiculous when they really find out what they have done, vote for the devil himself.
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MSG John Hill
CW4 Richard A. Dropik - He and She are interchangeable in your comment Chief...one has no morals or ethics and the other has no ethics or morals...tough choice, eh!!!
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Absolutely, they can. Their endorsements don't mean squat. No one runs out and votes for a candidate just because some retired military officer says to. Hell, we all know how and why most senior officers get where they are anyway. It ain't all just performance.
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Why not? As long as they don't wear their uniform while doing it. They are citizens and have every right to speak as they wish.
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Sure... so long as it's understood that the individual, not the military is endorsing.
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I dont see why not. Even though they are always subject to recall, they are still private citizens. They also have the right to free speech, even if it does cause foot in mouth disease.
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Cpl Justyn Cox
If overpaid football players, has been Hollywood celebrities, and untalented musicians can have an opinion, why couldn't a veteran who has actually served his country?
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I believe it is in poor taste to bring previous military title/position into play when publicly supporting a candidate.
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I couldn't agree more. Regardless of politics, I'm ashamed every time Trump mentions his legions of military supporters from GOs to MOH recipients.
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