Do you think NCO leadership is the same as it was 10-15 years ago?

First for most SSG Mathew Unger has nailed it on the head. I don't know what's happened to discipline in the Army. Mostly because more Americans fear disciplining their children. Oh while I'm on discipline mosteoporosis people think punishment but that another side which is training; like a disciplined martial art student etc. We as Americans have coultered our to be but hurt about everything. So for some examples even 8 vs today 8 ago when I was in a private e-1 if e-2 or above told what I just did it no question asked. I just made e-5 the first out ten soldiers only one went to parade rest without me telling him to. So self discipline is what the problem is. Oh ps if NCO told you to do something than Roger move out. Now days soldiers can back talk an NCO and we can't do anything about it. Back then you got 4856 muscle memory. Now the memory foam beds

No it's not but as times change people and values change

This all started going downhill in the mid 70's with the introduction of the cub scouts ( I mean volunteer Army). I got out with 10 1/2 years service in late 1975 because respect for the NCO was being eroded. When I got out we had a large number of E-6's with 10 to 12 years service calling it quits. It got so bad that any E'6 or above who decided to get out had to explain why to the Regimental Commander and CSM. When I talked with the CSM, he understood and said if it were not for the fact he already had nearly 30 years in, that he may well do the same thing. Both the CSM and Commander stated that the Army needed good NCO's to stay in to bring about the change. I guess that change never came. At least not back to giving respect to the NCO.

This may or may not have anything to do with this topic but, I've not once but, twice was not able to go on an extended leave period for the reasons I needed and both NCO'S, whom I won't name, told me if I paid them they can cover for me while I was gone. Lol. From what I've heard, service before self is no longer a key thing in the military with a lot of leaders. This is just my side of the story. I'm sure there is plenty more out there.

NCO leadership has had many hurdles to overcome throughout the centuries. Each NCO is developed through his or her professions, as necessary. The core of NCO leadership is to support the Commanding Officers METL. But as a soldier is expected to perform, so is an NCO is expected to lead. Non Commissioned Officers are in the business of MAKING LEADERS ! Everything else is just additional duties. The ability to make successful leaders is the real challenge. Overcoming the lack of confidence or over confidence of future leaders is the primary focus then to educate. So as someone who personally lived through the evolution of Infantry NCO leadership, I can attest that it has re focussed but ALWAYS had a very specific direction, to create leaders. This is my opinion based on 20 + years of my professional active duty. If you think that the NCO corps has faltered, then lead a new one from the top and fix it all, one challenge at a time.

I was scolded by a lieutenant for correcting a soldier. I was told, "This isn't the old Army, anymore." My reply: "That's the problem."

One thing I dislike about todays leadership techniques is the required redundancy. I'm a bit "Old School" in feeling that after a soldier is told once to do something, or more importantly Not To Do Something, then it should not need to be reiterated multiple times except for clarification. I believe that taking responsibility off the soldiers and requiring leaders to "babysit" simple tasks is a diservice to the soldiers. This is not to say quick reminders, or progress checks and due diligence would not be in order. Some things should really never need to be said more than once.

I feel that the newer NCO tend to be more strict in the lower enlisted

I was an E5 stationed in Fort Bragg back in 1998. These Soldiers party hard and work hard. When they get caught doing drugs, the MP came get them put them in chain like convict. These joes will test the system. Keep building up the counseling packet. They might be looking to get kick out or medboards. Why not help them get out.

Political correctness is a deadly virous plassed there by Liberals now in power who hated the Military and it's rightful correctness and customs. The Military is to be a laughing stosk now and perform wasteful nation building duties. Concervative minded people should turn their backs on this new military as Liberals did during Viet Nam. Use their tactics to get our country back if you really want it back.