Posted on Jun 27, 2015
Do you think Officers and NCO's should be allowed to date or get married as long as they are not in the same Chain of Command?
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Who cares, as long they are not in the same limit or chain of command , as long they not in the same platoon or company , love is love ..
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I agree with some of the other responses I've seen here. If your duties do not overlap at all, and you are not in the same chain of command, I do not see an issue with it. As long as both parties can take the rank off when they get home from work, which would be a personal issue at that point anyway, I can't think of a good reason against it. It's like friends that join the military and one ends up a commissioned officer and the other an NCO, should that friendship be banned if they aren't in the same CoC? Why apply any different policy towards dating and marriage. In the civilian sector, a VP of a company can date and marry anyone that he/she wants, regardless of their status in an organization. If it's the same company, there can be a conflict of interest, but if its a different company or organization, it has no bearing or effect on each parties professional life.
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If you want to retain good people, it should not matter so much. If there is a draw down on end strength it may also present a justification to force the issue.
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There is no difference in my opinion on the subject of dual military families when it comes to rank. If it's a NCO with enlisted or Officer with NCO or enlisted. If the highest ranking family member can't separate home from work and makes decisions based not on facts or truths, that individual leader should be reprimanded or punished. If two Soldiers of the same rank are married one will usually progress faster then the other. So who's to say if they are not going to show favoritism.
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I think largely the original rules go back to when officers and enlisted were in different social classes, which is definitely not the case any longer. However, it does create a whole new level of complication the military and military personnel system are not prepared to deal with right now. Additionally, it does create the possibility for a conflict of interests, as does dating outside your rank in general. With the personnel management system where it is right now, I could definitely see a conflict. The only real way to prevent it would be to ensure both different MOS/AOC/branch and different geographic locations. Or just not allow it. Personally, while some aspects of life, social activities, might be easier had I dated and married military, other aspects of my life would be far more complicated. Nothing against dual military couples, more power to them, I couldn't do it and have a family, but with only 1% of the U.S. population in the military you have options, look outside.
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I have had this in 3 different units and Office married to enlisted and in each one after discussion with the Commander one was transferred. I have also had it that two officers were married one Lt and Lt Col the Lt was Transferred. I spoke with the Lt Col and explained that the chain of command would be affected not because he would have curried favor for the Lt but because the presumption of the possibility was there plus it would allow the Lt to mature into the real officer that they were without the security blanket of a silver Oak Leaf. I also feel the same way about enlisted.
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Thank you your response. You made some very good points about perception and Officer development without undue influence.
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I agree with the majority when they say it shouldn't be an issue as long as they don't share a chain of command. We are all consenting adults, and I am of the mind set that if I can serve my country, I should be able to date and marry anyone I want.
But to play devil's advocate, let's say the reg is abolished and there is a free-for-all with dating. All is great if love prevails and marriage is in the future, but what if things go sour in that relationship? How many have experienced the drama of a bad break up, whether it be first-hand or seeing it unfold by others?
It is one thing to see 2 NCOS (or 2 Officers) go at it. These things happen. But what if there is that tension between an Officer and an enlisted member after a nasty break up? Kind of puts the whole "respect all officers appointed over me" part into jeopardy.
I know a level of professionalism is expected of all of us, but unfortunately, this isn't always so. So I can see why there is hesitation to make the reg go away altogether.
But to play devil's advocate, let's say the reg is abolished and there is a free-for-all with dating. All is great if love prevails and marriage is in the future, but what if things go sour in that relationship? How many have experienced the drama of a bad break up, whether it be first-hand or seeing it unfold by others?
It is one thing to see 2 NCOS (or 2 Officers) go at it. These things happen. But what if there is that tension between an Officer and an enlisted member after a nasty break up? Kind of puts the whole "respect all officers appointed over me" part into jeopardy.
I know a level of professionalism is expected of all of us, but unfortunately, this isn't always so. So I can see why there is hesitation to make the reg go away altogether.
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As much as I'd like to accept it. I see too much potential for an abuse of authority, and favoritism. Just like within civilian businesses.
Seen it happen all too often.
Seen it happen all too often.
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I think it should be ok for officers and enlisted to date and even marry as long as they are not in each others chain of command.
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