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Do you think white privilage exists? If yes, what’s some examples of it and what’s your definition of it. I think it’s a made up phrase that attempts and sometimes succeeds at shamming or guilting white people. Whites don’t have white only scholarships, minorities do. 2 students, 1 white...1 minority apply for college, white is more qualified, but minority gets accepted. White privilage is fake.
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig
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No such thing, it's called American privilege!

Limousine liberals are peddling the convoluted construct of “white privilege” to explain unequal achievement. This misguided notion fosters complacency and exacerbates inequality, preventing pursuit of something much more powerful – American privilege.

This quote is from the American Thinker article.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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Agree "white privilege" is a racial term created by Liberals to divide us and hide the real issue which has nothing to do with race or ethnicity.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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CPT (Anonymous) - Ohh thats not true, your just attempting to use it in the argument to bolster your case. I have been followed around by cops in predominantly Black Neighborhoods.......why do you suppose that is? Was it my law abiding behavior or do you think the cops felt I was there for some mischevious reason? Been pulled over by Cops in the South for no good reason other than look inside the car. Do I call that racial profiling or car profiling? Been pulled aside at the border because of the College decal on my car? Is that ageist profiling? I think African Americans are over sensitized in some cases and lump everything into the harrassment category when in effect it does happen to all races. Cops make mistakes sometimes in gauging human behavior.....is it always harrassment, no I don't think so. Some of it is misjudgement but I will accept it when it happens to me if I know it keeps me safer.

Also, I could choose to live in a 90% racially white neighborhood in North Texas but instead live in one that is diverse and only 40-50% white. How many liberals preaching "white privilege" can say the same about where they live? How many liberals have even been in a predominantly black neighborhood for 100% legal reasons....that is. Not many. So back to the ivory tower........whats next?
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Sharon Lee
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Wow
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig
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CPT (Anonymous) - your entitled to your opinion...but you ARE NOT entitled to paint me into a box. Making a bullshit accusation is quite easy, especially being an anonymous poster.
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LTC David Brown
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I think there are aspects to it, but it is over played. There are always people who get breaks, born to connections, born to wealth etc. they have priviledge also. Take what you are given and do what you can with it. Some soar beyond what we can imagine and some sit and feel sorry for themselves. Opportunities exist regardless. Tell me what her priviledge is other than loving parents. http://www.lifenews.com/2014/09/03/mother-was-forced-to-abandon-her-daughter-with-no-legs-now-shes-a-gymnast/
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MSgt Danny Hope
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Great video, thanks
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LHM
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Do you think white privilege exists?
MSgt Danny Hope
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I think you're gonna catch a lot of feedback on this post. Don't get me wrong, I think it is a legitimate question; but the subject is very emotionally charged.
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Yeah I kinda figured that master sergeant. But I think it’s a question that needs asking.
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MSgt Danny Hope
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SSG(P) (Join to see) - True. My advice? Strap in and hold on!
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SPC Erich Guenther
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It's the Liberals that inject race and ethnicity into every damn discussion on the face of the planet just about that nobody can discuss serious issues facing our society without being called a racist or a bigot. See how I handle this in my post. It has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. It is just that most people are highly risk averse and the highly risk averse always look for excuses NOT to do something.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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Some people are afraid to try to succeed and look for environmental excuses to not even make the effort it is not race specific but across the board of all ethnicities and races. That's what I think. I am sure I will get slammed for that opinion but I find it to be true. Case in point, I am really good at investing money on the NYSE and earning a lot of money per year doing that. I try to teach others to do it over the internet and in person and 85-95% of the people I try to teach either do not want to make the effort to learn or are too tight fisted with their money to take any risk or invest any sizeable amount of money. Thats primarily where I form my conclusion from BUT it also is formed by looking at who enlisted in the Armed forces and who did not. There is risk in that decision. Look around the people you know, who took the risk who said no thanks. Same with starting a small business. So I kind of view the "white privilege" thing as racially charged term but think it through and apply my comments. Some people regardless of race or ethnicity just do not want to take specific risks that would lift them up economically. A lot of time the opportunity is there they either do not see it or refuse to take the risk.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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CPT (Anonymous) - That's their misfortune.......it's hardly my privilege.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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CPT (Anonymous) - On I totally disagree on that because it presumes I am not subject to any other indignities / hardships in their place which the folks you refer to do not. So the presumption one group in the population has it tougher than the other I think is BS. I could have chosen crime, I could be living in a run down trailer park or even homeless now via the wrong choices. If your argument was true nobody would advance under that set of circumstances, yet you have this problem with your argument on why some advance and others do not in the miniority groups your looking at. You also have to explain why the argument will never fade from usage and will still be here and used Centuries from today by small groups of people that do not want to take responsibilty or be held accountable.
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SGT Matthew Sesar
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Don’t know, never spent a day in someone else’s shoes.
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You don't really have to. Did you, though your own actions, succeed. Do you believe other have the ability to do what you did? Can you name a single barrier in this country that prevents anyone from succeeding. The words/phrases personal accountability and personal responsibility have to mean something. I believe everyone has a choice to "pursue their own happiness" and if they don't, it's their own fault.
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SGT Matthew Sesar
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I am about as conservative as they come and have a strong sense of personal responsibility. It just seems like political topics like that can’t ever truly be answered. I could be wrong though and would love input.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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There is whole "pity me" industry built up in this country which the Liberals want to preserve because it channels money to them which they can rain on the populace and garner votes with...........that's the root cause of this crap.
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SSG Jessica Bautista
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So this is one of those subjects where white people get super defensive and argue down the importance of race and social privilege. You even admit yourself that you don't know what it is, but you've already determined that it's "fake". Privilege is not always overt, and most times you won't see it because it's not what is currently happening, it is what already happened. These aren't excuses for failure, it's just one facet of our society. Stuff happened, and now we're dealing with the aftershocks.

So we're going to start with slavery because, let's face it, it was a pretty awful time for black people. We're not assigning blame, so it doesn't matter if your family owned slaves or voted a certain way. It's not about any one group or family. It's easy to say "slavery is over, get over it", but we're still fighting over Confederate monuments, so...

Anyway, slavery didn't just abruptly end with emancipation. Slaves started with nothing. The newspapers were filled with ads of family members who were separated as slaves (remember, they weren't "people"). So there were a whole crap ton of single parents, orphans, and other disadvantaged family groupings. Finding family takes time and money, which most probably didn't have.

To justify enslaving a people, they had to be viewed as sub-human. This is true in all cases of human rights violations. White people weren't inherently evil, obviously. Slavery gave America the free labor that allowed our economic growth spurt. These attitudes didn't go away. Without slaves, their previous owners likely made less profit. This is where resentment started. Imagine someone who wasn't even seen as full human being, and suddenly they were expecting to be equal to their owners. How do we know resentment existed? Segregation, lynchings, stereotyping, etc. Again, not placing blame, it is what it is.

So, imagine generations later, the majority of the country and, more importantly, people in positions of power were white. All things being equal, what explains that? Lynchings often targeted successful men, who may or not have had families to provide for. Black families who moved into decent neighborhoods were often chased out with violence and often losing their material possessions. Note that most wealth is inherited. If you started with less than nothing in a society that actively hindered successful black people, you will likely leave nothing for your family.

Remember, not assigning blame, but also note that when a black person doesn't act in a certain socially acceptable way, a common insult is "ghetto". Remember why ghettos existed. It was a way to maintain segregation.

Recall that the Civil Rights movement was not that long ago in America's history. There are still people alive today who experienced it. Compare that with the time it took from emancipation to desegregation. There are other signs of integrated racism (again, not overt, and not assigning blame), but I'll leave it at that for now.

Also, that is not how affirmative action works, and white women benefit from it the most.
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SSG Jessica Bautista
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I've noticed the same. Goodness knows what would happen if we let him stew in his own ignorance though.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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200-300 years from today we will hear the same argument from a even smaller segment of the population..........thats what is wrong with the argument in the first place. It will never end and always be used by those that would rather not be held accountable for personal choices made in life.
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Maj John Bell
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All kinds of "undeserved" privileges exist. What unearned advantage would you not offer your child? The question is not "Are the turkeys holding me down?" OF COURSE THEY ARE. They hold you down because you are the minority, or are the majority, or are poor, or are rich, or you wear glasses, or have acne, or are a nerd, or are a jock, or are a liberal, or are a conservative, or are religious, or are an atheist, or are skinny, or are fat... ad nauseum. There is no shortage of people that want to, and will, hold you down and/or back. The only thing that matters is when you decide to stop rising back up. I have no sympathy for those who lie there and accept it. They should spend their life eating dirt. I have the utmost respect for those that yell "BULL SHIT" and get back up again. They should spend their life wiping the blood away from their mouth and eat King Crab Legs, Corn on the Cob, Cornbread - all dripping with butter; and for desert Baklava with Vanilla Ice Cream.

Forgive me as I wax poetic:

I who have lived my life,
My years of hot-blood roving, in the sun--
Now that my course is run,
Is it for me to die Hemmed from the sapphire sky,
Scene of my joy and strife-- Die here--where the pale chilling blood can just Stain my wan lips
As the soul slips
Into the darkness? Shall I die in bed,
Lost in the shadows of a dimming room,
Unutterably sordid? Give me dust
Sweeping across the barrens, choking down
The feeble death-gasp till the red stars reel
In a weird dirge-dance round my sinking head,
Rather than see through gloom
The specter-pallid nurse in white and gray,
The ice-nerved doctor with his black-browed frown,
Stealthily steal
To fend the last light of the dying day
With close-drawn blinds from my light-thirsty eyes--
Ye sunset skies!
I used to know your splendor! Let me die
Like any dog, but let it be away
Under the open sky!

Give me to die like a beast, afar, alone
With but the hawk and crow
To watch beside me while I cast my soul,
And but the sky to know
What my racked lips have uttered, what last groan,
Or curse or prayer, I breathed to heaven above--
And this the whole
Boon that I ask of you--to split in twain
With your wild night-winds, for the ancient love
I bore you, O ye Sunset-flames, the smother
That rides like some dire curse upon my chest,
And let me feel again
The blessed western breeze--my restless brother
On many an endless road--that knew me best
Of all the winds that sweep around the world.
--Give me to drown, in the dark, where, tempest-hurled,
The black ship wavers down through soundless sea;

GIVE ME TO DIE IN A GOOD FIGHT!!! FOUL OR FAIR!!!,

With but a heart to stab, a throat to clutch,
And once again to see
That gay red haze of madness veil my sight--
To feel the hot breath and the blood-stiff hair--
I ask too much?
I am a beast, they say?
Then let me die,
By all the gods, just as a beast should die--
Out in the flaming sunset, far away
Under the open sky!

Kenneth Rand 1891-1918.

OOOOH RAHHHHHHHH!!!

Got melodrama?
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Maybe at one point in time it did. I think that in today's world it's a handicap.
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I think it exists but as has been said, is over played. Still...

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
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