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Does a security clearance renew automatically or do you yourself have to start on the process? What can cause you to loose a security clearance these days? I have one for a few years now but I have not used it or anything all I know about it is just that I have one.
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Clearance eligibility *always* expires and has to be renewed, no matter who did the investigation or who adjudicated the result. By default, eligibility of Public Trust (basically, to grant you access to internal, protected data at the unclassified level) will expire after 15 years, Secret after 10, TS/SCI after 5, and most SAPs use the TS/SCI standard (plus usually polygraph) but then add on annual re-adjudication as part of a continuous evaluation program.
Getting it renewed is based on either *need to know* or position requirements. Simply put, if you aren't in a job that requires you to have access, or otherwise in a position that is required to maintain a baseline eligibility, then you won't be investigated or re-investigated. Additionally, large gaps in service can justify administrative (non-punitive) de-activation of your eligibility, which then requires re-investigation (or if the investigation is still fairly current, sometimes merely re-adjudication) to get back.
What can cause you to *lose* eligibility earlier than that -- excepting the administrative downgrade or de-activation -- is the same thing that could block an adjudication otherwise; if you violate the 13 adjudicative guidelines, and cannot sufficiently mitigate the circumstances of the violation. The 13 guidelines are available <a href="http://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/60321.htm">[here]</a>, and each has a series of potential factors that can indicate a concern and factors that could mitigate the concern. The applicability of these is done by the adjudicator, *not* the investigator, which for all DoD personnel will be the DoD Consolidated Adjudications Facility (CAF) at Ft. Meade, MD. The investigator's job is merely to gather and organize the facts relevant to your case, *never* to make an overall recommendation or determination.
Source: I've been a Security Manager at virtually every echelon in the Army over a period of more than a decade. Also, I have worked directly for DoD CAF on the civilian side.
Getting it renewed is based on either *need to know* or position requirements. Simply put, if you aren't in a job that requires you to have access, or otherwise in a position that is required to maintain a baseline eligibility, then you won't be investigated or re-investigated. Additionally, large gaps in service can justify administrative (non-punitive) de-activation of your eligibility, which then requires re-investigation (or if the investigation is still fairly current, sometimes merely re-adjudication) to get back.
What can cause you to *lose* eligibility earlier than that -- excepting the administrative downgrade or de-activation -- is the same thing that could block an adjudication otherwise; if you violate the 13 adjudicative guidelines, and cannot sufficiently mitigate the circumstances of the violation. The 13 guidelines are available <a href="http://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/60321.htm">[here]</a>, and each has a series of potential factors that can indicate a concern and factors that could mitigate the concern. The applicability of these is done by the adjudicator, *not* the investigator, which for all DoD personnel will be the DoD Consolidated Adjudications Facility (CAF) at Ft. Meade, MD. The investigator's job is merely to gather and organize the facts relevant to your case, *never* to make an overall recommendation or determination.
Source: I've been a Security Manager at virtually every echelon in the Army over a period of more than a decade. Also, I have worked directly for DoD CAF on the civilian side.
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Piece of advice. Always keep your e-quip paperwork when you apply or renew your clearances. Going back ten years in the military with all the moving around can be a pain in the butt. Having the previous copy is a big help in getting the renewal done quickly. As far as losing your clearance. Depending on the level of clearance you have you can lose your clearance for such things as DUI's, bankruptcies, or almost any kind of UCMJ action. Your S2 should notify you when the time is coming to renew or if you were to lose it for any reason.
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MAJ (Join to see)
e-Qip will already have all your previous data in it; that's one of the reasons the system was developed. The only time it won't is if your previous instance wasn't done through e-Qip. Previous versions are less useful if you're going for Secret renewal, as you already don't have to renew until 10 years, which defeats the purpose of being able to look back -- for TS, though, it's a gold mine. Also, if you need a hard copy and can't find it (or don't have it), you can always request it via the Privacy Act from OPM, but turnaround time is usually about 2 months, so don't wait until the last minute. Last, although S2 *should* notify when you're due, never rely on that; sometimes one slips through the cracks.
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SGT Tevita Vuiyanuca
Great info Sir. Surely reduce the stress of going through the whole process again.
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You have to renew it yourself. It is easier the second time. Most positions require at at least secret.
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SFC Kenneth Hunnell
Your S2 or G2, would initiate the reinvestigation. You can give a heads up, you still need to have a need to know prior to renewal
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No, it does not automatically renew. Your NO SC should tell you that you need to resubmit the former for your clearance. I think it was an SF-87. You can lose your clearance for many reasons. Least of which is bad credit. So, keep up with your bills, keep your nose clean and you should be fine.
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Quick answer...once adjudicated it is good for ten years. Access is based on the position. You or your sec manager has to begin the process to renew...it is not automatic.
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Its depends on who did it and when .. What is your MOS .. I was a radioman and i have a TS (full clear) lev 5 Aka acrs the board and it never exp.. Well not until 2069 anyhow as i was told by nav admin in my div
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No ... You have to go to Security Officer of Installation ... Depends on your type and how long granted ... Don't let the time pass by ... Others have regretted it
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I didn't realize Rally Point was secure enough to so openly discuss the processes we use to permit access to items vital to national security. Best advice I saw was "...contact your S2 (security manager)".
We never know if the seemingly innocuous information we have is the last piece of the puzzle for an enemy.
We never know if the seemingly innocuous information we have is the last piece of the puzzle for an enemy.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
True but we as a nation are already too stupid for more stupidity to hurt us anymore. Didja know that the PC you type on while active duty is made in China? Trust me, rallypoint and facebook are -78's on a 1-10 scale. They already have every access they need. And like the good idiots we are, we'll continue to vote them "favored trading status..." Honestly, Leno and Letterman couldn't write better stuff.
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CPO (Join to see)
Well YN3, it certainly sounds as tho you have the expertise and experience to assert the homework you've done on this topic. I won't insult you by asking where you've happened across your knowledge. Perhaps I take my job a bit seriously at times. I just get a little itchy seeing in print things the average person doesn't have a need to know.
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MAJ (Join to see)
Relax, chief. It's not worth getting all tussled over a smart-mouthed comment. You generally raise a good point about information publicly available and what you believe are the potential OPSEC concerns; you're trying to play it safe, as you've been trained, and there's nothing wrong with that.
As to your concerns, all things considered, nothing in this thread is considered sensitive because it's about standards and timetables for clearances (rather than, say, ways to game your investigator), and every last bit of it is publicly available in official documentation (for example, I posted a link to DoS where the 13 adjudicative guidelines are clearly on display, because those guidelines are officially considered public by the US Gov). At the same time, there's a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding, often even among security personnel, so getting a good straight-talk low-down as to what you should expect can really help someone avoid the basic, stupid errors such as letting their clearance accidentally lapse.
Lastly, not to go all "the kids these days...", but do keep in mind that when young Soldiers/Sailors/Airmen/Marines ask for help on a forum like this, sending them back to the S2 really just engenders bad blood. It's a generational thing, and while we can grouse about how that's how we all got treated when we joined up, the unfortunate truth is that we can't expect the same reaction that was expected of us.
As to your concerns, all things considered, nothing in this thread is considered sensitive because it's about standards and timetables for clearances (rather than, say, ways to game your investigator), and every last bit of it is publicly available in official documentation (for example, I posted a link to DoS where the 13 adjudicative guidelines are clearly on display, because those guidelines are officially considered public by the US Gov). At the same time, there's a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding, often even among security personnel, so getting a good straight-talk low-down as to what you should expect can really help someone avoid the basic, stupid errors such as letting their clearance accidentally lapse.
Lastly, not to go all "the kids these days...", but do keep in mind that when young Soldiers/Sailors/Airmen/Marines ask for help on a forum like this, sending them back to the S2 really just engenders bad blood. It's a generational thing, and while we can grouse about how that's how we all got treated when we joined up, the unfortunate truth is that we can't expect the same reaction that was expected of us.
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