Posted on Jul 31, 2021
Does an Officer applying to become a Warrant Officer need to take the ASVAB? For the SIFT test, once passed do I have to take it again?
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Currently I am a CPT 25A. My look for MAJ board is on 2024, however I want to switch to become a Warrant Officer and become a Pilot. I have a Secret and a Bachelor's degree, I am planning on getting a masters starting this August. I was prior enlisted in the NG and took the SIFT in 2013 while in the SMP (ROTC SMP program) and passed. Any advice and suggestions are welcomed.
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You'll need a 110 GT for warrant, it's non waiverable. It's one of the very few non waiverable requirements for WOCS
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Thanks for the input. I took the ASVAB when I enlisted years ago. I believe I got a 108 GT score. I did ROTC through the SMP and commissioned, did Active for 6 years, currently in the Reserve. Will have to study for the ASVAB to get a GT of 110 I guess.
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Why not rebranch to 15A and stay a CPT instead of starting over?
I’m an Army reserve Administrator for a Medevac Company and about 40% of the pilots are officers.
I’m an Army reserve Administrator for a Medevac Company and about 40% of the pilots are officers.
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I understand.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe I saw in a different thread that pilots won’t make W2 anymore after school. It could be different for you but I’d just hate to see you have to start over is all Sir.
I understand.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe I saw in a different thread that pilots won’t make W2 anymore after school. It could be different for you but I’d just hate to see you have to start over is all Sir.
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Actually that would be perfect for me for retirement purposes. If I start as a CW1 as long as I make CW3 I would be able to retire. Plus the 10 year mandate would allow me to reach retirement.
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A new pilot who is a CPT isn't a great place to be in. Generally CPTs are expected to be ready or close to ready to be pilots in command, as opposed to co-pilots. If a CPT wanted to re-promote later it wouldn't be bad after getting some experience as a WO1 and CW2. Also O grades tend to fly less as they promote (this statement is less true in the NG) while Warrants have secondary duties their primary job is to fly.
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Why would you need to take the ASVAB again? Since you can only take the SIFT twice in your lifetime, it should be good. You need to talk to Warrant Officer Recruiting and your Career Counselor about switching. In my day, which is somewhat dated now, you would not had to attend WOBC.
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CPT (Join to see) - I'm a mustang, so I had an ASVAB Score. I assume that you didn't take one in ROTC?
Rules change too quick for me to give you a competent answer. That is why I said to talk to Warrant Officer Recruiting and you Career Counselor.
Rules change too quick for me to give you a competent answer. That is why I said to talk to Warrant Officer Recruiting and you Career Counselor.
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I'm nitpicking terms, but the wise CPT would have to attend WOBC, i.e. flight school, but not WOCC.
Edit: I should have wrote WOCS (Warrant Officer Candidate School) not WOCC (Warrant Officer Career College). It was bugging me that the edit button was missing for a bit.
Edit: I should have wrote WOCS (Warrant Officer Candidate School) not WOCC (Warrant Officer Career College). It was bugging me that the edit button was missing for a bit.
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I took the ASVAB and enlisted in the NG. Later I did ROTC through the SMP program. Then commissioned and did 6 years Active. Currently in the Army Reserve.
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CW3 Matt Tait - You are correct, I should have typed not having to attend WOCS since WOBC is qualification for your new job.
As a Captain, if he branch transferred as an Officer, the Captains Career Course would be the qualifications for his new Branch. I was a Branch qualified Infantry Officer when I switched to over the the Engineers. I didn't not have to attend the Basic Course, but did have to complete Engineer Officer Advanced Course, the current CCC, to be Branch Qualified.
As a Captain, if he branch transferred as an Officer, the Captains Career Course would be the qualifications for his new Branch. I was a Branch qualified Infantry Officer when I switched to over the the Engineers. I didn't not have to attend the Basic Course, but did have to complete Engineer Officer Advanced Course, the current CCC, to be Branch Qualified.
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The GT score requirements is intended to identify technical prowess within an individual. As is understood, Commissioned Officers have soft skills that oversee processes, Warrants are part of a physical labor force who apply technical skill sets daily, both physically and as part of a Team of technicians. While the number seems insignificant, it is the litmus test that had been the gage “since” forever.
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If you want to fly, you need to look at the Air Force and Navy along with the Army. Depending on your current service commitment, you might be able to change Service, keep your rank, and go to flight school. If you’re locked in to the Army for several more years, then apply for Army flight training as an officer.
There is an important difference between being a warrant officer and a commissioned officer as a pilot in all Services. Officer pilots compete for leadership positions. Warrant officers are expected y to be expert aviators, but don’t usually command. (AF doesn’t have WOs.). Money-wise being commissioned pays better now and post retirement.
There is an important difference between being a warrant officer and a commissioned officer as a pilot in all Services. Officer pilots compete for leadership positions. Warrant officers are expected y to be expert aviators, but don’t usually command. (AF doesn’t have WOs.). Money-wise being commissioned pays better now and post retirement.
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Thanks for the advice Sir. Will definitely look into the other services as well. Currently I don’t have any commitment and I have already fulfilled my MSO, which kind of gives me more flexibility.
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