Posted on May 14, 2020
Does anyone know of any recent cases in the services of an Ex-Senior NCO being reactivated to Active Duty as a Warrant/Field/General Officer?
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I am looking for data from the year 2000 thru present-day. No need for names but that would be helpful. I would also be glad to get examples of EM/NCO reactivation to Junior Warrant and Company Grade Officers.
Many soldiers leave service and get Associate, Technical, Bachelor, Master, and PhDs Degrees.
Likewise many individuals start businesses and supervise many employees, locations and interstate services without getting degrees but gain managerial t experience.
Then again some get employment at positions in companies or government or organizations where they like be all they can be - at higher levels of competence.
I need relevant and related information. Thanks in Advance.
Many soldiers leave service and get Associate, Technical, Bachelor, Master, and PhDs Degrees.
Likewise many individuals start businesses and supervise many employees, locations and interstate services without getting degrees but gain managerial t experience.
Then again some get employment at positions in companies or government or organizations where they like be all they can be - at higher levels of competence.
I need relevant and related information. Thanks in Advance.
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Warrant Officer candidates need to put in a package, be accepted, and attend WOCS. There's no "magic shortcut" to being a Warrant Officer.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
SFC Michael Hasbun - Thanks for the link. I retired in'93 and am certainly not interested but I know several of my workers that also ETSed and retired that are checking it out.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley the warrant officer selection and candidate school process has not always been that way. There has always been a selection process but prior to the early 80s Technical Warrant Officers did not attend candidate school. They were selected and upon their promotion date went from an NCO grade to WO1. I believe there may been a policy for E7s to promote direct to CW2. Since that time all Warrant Officer candidates have had to attend candidate school at Ft Rucker.
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CW5 Edward "Tate" Jones Jr.
I was a beneficiary of the Direct Appointment system in 1973. I went directly from E7 to WO1. The Army had eliminated the E7-CW2 direct system shortly before I was appointed because of a relatively high failure rate of such individuals due to unrealistic expectations of a CW2. MOST direct appointees in that period went to a 2-week gentlemen's "Knife and Fork" course at Fort Sill as an introduction and transition from Enlisted to Officer. This, as in my case, was waiverable. I was put on emergency orders to Sinop, Turkey. Ultimately I PCS'ed 2 times in a 10 day period from E7 in Germany, to Arlington Hall, VA for appointment, and then to Sinop all over the Thanksgiving holiday period. In those days, the first 2 years of a Warrant's career was "Trial by fire."
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Not necessarily "Reactivated" unless you're talking Soldiers who went into the Inactive Ready Reserve (IRR) and were recalled due to a shortage in a high-demand MOS for a mobilization... and even then they are recalled at their rank upon exit from active status (or their rank in the IRR... promotions can happen in the IRR).
Now if you're talking a direct-commission type of position (Officers, not Warrant Officers), that happens all the time. AMEDD, SJA, and Chaplains are often brought in as direct commission, but will still have to attend requisite training to be qualified in their specialty, less the typical OCS or ROTC source of commissioning.
Now if you're talking a direct-commission type of position (Officers, not Warrant Officers), that happens all the time. AMEDD, SJA, and Chaplains are often brought in as direct commission, but will still have to attend requisite training to be qualified in their specialty, less the typical OCS or ROTC source of commissioning.
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Not at all a likely scenario. I have never heard of anything like this, especially if hey had retired. They would have to have some sort of mechanism for direct commission, again not likely. Well at least I know of nothing remotely close to this.
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You must have a commissiong source. There is still on the books a direct commission, though I have seen that only once in 3rd BDE 1st CAV 2009. Dude was maybe Intel??? Can’t say for sure, but not sure what the justification was. Honestly if you are looking to come back in as an officer or warrant officer, there isn’t fast pass like Disney World for that. You will be required to play the game. Now if you went on to be a social scientist, or city public works planner, some sort of skill set that allows for a “professional in the industry” status- there was a program for that. But if you just scored a degree and feel like you are officer material- get in line behind the thousands of E4’s we recruit with paper, and apply for WOC’s or OCS...
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I know a lot of prior enlisted ( Mustangs ) from a variety of AFSCs, Rates, MOSs that later commissioned as 0-1 thru 0-3 as physical therapists. All commissioned around 1997, outside your parameter; all prior NCOs and at minimum retired from AD as 0-5. Not unusual to see in the medical field.
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My daughter was an ANG SSgt, went into IRR, then left at the end of her enlistment. About a decade later she took direct commission as a US Navy Reserve Nurse, entering as an O-3. She has her BSN, MSN, and Nurse Practitioner plus over 10 years nursing experience. Her Medical Officer's School was 4 weeks.
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That is less common, but she had to apply for the commision, it was not at the Military's request that she was commissioned.
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I have never seen a case of this. I was prior enlisted and then returned as an officer when I joined again. When I was in the Guard I have see many get called back when they were still in the IRR. The issue is that the Army will not invest in anyone that they need to fill the gap on a temporary status. Usually you are recalled for a period of time only. The Army takes a while to align the right amount of officers and senior enlisted. This happened a few years back when the Army added another manever battalion to brigade combat teams. There was a short fall of officers to fill positions. They used the Call to Active Duty program to bring qualifed officers from the National Guard and the Reserves. That is usually the place the Army looks. I was a active duty NG officer that had all the schools and training I needed that would enable me to me successful. The issue with pulling from the outside the NG, Reserve, or IRR is that you will have to spend a lot of time and money to catch them up. It is easier to try to reclass a Soldier, pull from reserves, or just promote junior Soldiers quicker.
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Probably not many, if any, currently. After the last war there were a lot of officers that were RIFed. Many kept their commissions and continued on AD as NCOs. I remember in 1965 our Bn SGM retired and showed up as a COL of Infantry to his retirement ceremony. In the 'Nam we had some were reactivated, we called them retreads, and also, some that had USAR commissions that were on AD as NCOs recalled as officers. Most all of these are passed away or really old, so I doubt you see them anymore.
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Why on earth would they recall a senior NCO and place them as a Warrant (which cant happen), a field grade or general officer? makes absolutely no sense.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
Asking - I retired in '93. I saw LTCs rifted back to SSG after Vietnam...
I do know of one CW4 who left service as an SP5 who activated to fly CH-47 Chinooks after 9/11 in Afghanistan. He owned an air transport company. He activated as an E5 but within 6 months was warranted to W-2 then moved up to W-4.
My questions to you was different though.
I do know of one CW4 who left service as an SP5 who activated to fly CH-47 Chinooks after 9/11 in Afghanistan. He owned an air transport company. He activated as an E5 but within 6 months was warranted to W-2 then moved up to W-4.
My questions to you was different though.
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