Posted on Jan 24, 2024
Does anyone know the TIG in which you can return to a promotion board after being reduced from SSG to SGT?
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SGT Michael Mason TIG resets upon reduction and TIG starts at the new effective date of rank. So it would be the same as if the NCO was never promoted. There are edge cases in the regulation.
AR 600-8-19:
Secondary zone
46 months TIS + 6 months TIG
Primary zone
70 months TIS + 16 months TIG
Mandatory list integration
82 months TIS + 22 months TIG
AR 600-8-19:
Secondary zone
46 months TIS + 6 months TIG
Primary zone
70 months TIS + 16 months TIG
Mandatory list integration
82 months TIS + 22 months TIG
Per AR 600-8-19, Table 3-1
Secondary zone 6 months TIG
Primary Zone is 16 months TIG.
Secondary Zone TIG requires a Waiver. As you were reduced per an Article 15, you are not authorized a Waiver.
Also, if I may add, since you were just reduced in rank...I would recommend you focus on getting better in the eyes of your Command since they can easily turn around and mark NO for recommendation to see the Board.
Secondary zone 6 months TIG
Primary Zone is 16 months TIG.
Secondary Zone TIG requires a Waiver. As you were reduced per an Article 15, you are not authorized a Waiver.
Also, if I may add, since you were just reduced in rank...I would recommend you focus on getting better in the eyes of your Command since they can easily turn around and mark NO for recommendation to see the Board.
Short answer: 16 months.
If you've had a demotion in rank, then you must meet full TIG/TIS requirements* - it's no different than if you were a newly promoted E-5 except you aren't eligible for a secondary zone promotion (you must meet full TIG/TIS eligibility - waivers aren't allowed after being demoted).
By your question, it indicates you already know the answer to the other question commonly asked - "Do I have to go before a promotion board again?"
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* AR 600-8-19 - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN36067-AR_600-8-19-000-WEB-1.pdf
If you've had a demotion in rank, then you must meet full TIG/TIS requirements* - it's no different than if you were a newly promoted E-5 except you aren't eligible for a secondary zone promotion (you must meet full TIG/TIS eligibility - waivers aren't allowed after being demoted).
By your question, it indicates you already know the answer to the other question commonly asked - "Do I have to go before a promotion board again?"
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* AR 600-8-19 - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN36067-AR_600-8-19-000-WEB-1.pdf
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I get what MSG (Join to see) was trying to impart, You are asking for information that is easily found in regulation, and as a dutiful NCO tried to key you into what happens to a lot of Art.15 recipients when they go up for promotion again (i.e. the Art.15 becomes a center piece for board members and the CDR).
The point of RallyPoint is you get access to the unsolicited advice of service members with a collective hundreds of years of experience in the military (such as what I am giving now). If you didn't want the advice in the first place, try Google next time.
But you are right, your experience is not the same as probably most of us. But it is for some of us, and if not, we for sure have probably seen your particular circumstances play out dozens of times.
However, I will note that a previously promoted SSG purporting "MQ" who doesn't know AR 600-8-19 is the regulatory guidance for promotions and that APD is publicly accessible through Google and hosts all regulations for the Army doesn't strike me as someone who is prepared for another promotion. But then again, you didn't ask for my opinion.
Which is ok, because you work for someone else, some other set of SFC, 1SG, CSM, CPT, etc. Your lack of development doesn't reflect on me, but rather them. Interestingly enough you asked RP and not them.