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Where is the most integral part. If they are in your direct chain of command it's a no go. Crossing branches same applies. What people think and what the UCMJ dictates are two different things unless your command has decided it needed to amend the rule to make it more stringent. Per UCMJ art 134 factors considered are: whether it compromises the chain of command, results in appearance of partiality, or otherwise undermine good order, discipline or morale. Further the acts and circumstances must be such to lead a reasonable person experienced in military leadership to conclude good order and discipline has been prejudiced by their tendency to compromise the respect of enlisted for officers.
In a nutshell if they are in your chain no. If they are high enough to actually be over your chain, no. But you can have a relationship if there is no compromise of your chain of command. Hope that helps.
In a nutshell if they are in your chain no. If they are high enough to actually be over your chain, no. But you can have a relationship if there is no compromise of your chain of command. Hope that helps.
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Yeah I watched a "relationship" develop between an E-6 and an O-3 that impacted missions and both were married. It was reported, JAG investigated and not a damn thing came out of it except a divorce for the E-6 and a promotion for the O-3 along with her own company. The unfairness in enforcing rules in the name of female empowerment and social justice is one reason I am out right now.
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I'm pretty sure an enlisted Marine can have a relationship with an Air Force officer as long as they're not in the same chain of command. Even then it's only fraternization if their personal relationship carries over into their professional one, and there aren't many instances where Marines and Air Force have joint activity.
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If im not mistaken, they have a grace period to be able to get married or end the relationship.
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I knew a female in the Marines that got a commission from Staff Sergeant and was married to a Gunny. Normally, if there's a pre-existing relationship, especially a marriage, it's never a problem. But, that's the Marines.
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Listen, you bunch of liberal cry babies! You don't want to do the damned rules, DON'T FUCKING JOIN!!! Get your sorry asses out and belong to BLM or some other subversive, sissy group, the American military of men and real women does not need or appreciate your sorry asses!
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I was in a very similar position. I am an Air Force NCO, and the woman I was nearly engaged to was about to commission as a naval medical officer. After her commission there was no conflict of interest.
We had dated since college, and we're in a committed relationaship. Her command and peers were aware of who I was. Maybe it was because it was interservice, or maybe it didn't matter to her command. Nobody seemed to care, and it never effected her career progression or promotions.
...Or maybe it's because she's a doctor and the Navy needs her more than she needs the Navy.
We had dated since college, and we're in a committed relationaship. Her command and peers were aware of who I was. Maybe it was because it was interservice, or maybe it didn't matter to her command. Nobody seemed to care, and it never effected her career progression or promotions.
...Or maybe it's because she's a doctor and the Navy needs her more than she needs the Navy.
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Fraternization can exist between branches. It just depends on the unit you are with. Joint commands can have service members from different branches can certainly have that problem.
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I was enlisted and I met my future wife when she was enlisted, both in the Army. She went to ROTC and received her commissioning. So for many years we were a married officer/enlisted couple. Some officers didn't approve but there was nothing they could do about it
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