Posted on Apr 12, 2015
SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
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What are the best arguments for or against the existence of God?

I mean an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent Supreme Being -- the eternally and necessarily extant Creator of the universe.

Atheists, Theists, Agnostics, Polytheists, Pantheists and anyone else are all welcome to weigh in!
I'm not asking what you believe, I'm asking about the best arguments for or against the existence of God.

To clarify omnibenevolence, I mean simply 'perfect goodness,' not "the quality of being kind and generous towards everyone and everything." CH (CPT) (Join to see)
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MSgt Jeffrey Glick
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Okay being Jewish I believe there is a G_D I believe in the Torah I believe JC was a great prophet who was credited with many miracles. That is my take on it. In order to change someones belief system it takes a significant emotional event for that to happen usually. So arguing is sort of pointless either you do or you don't there is no middle. Like Mr. Miyagi says karate do yes or karate do no but no karate do sometimes
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SSG James Arlington
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No one can prove, or disprove God. Man has books written by men. Period.
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PFC Chris Hemingway
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Actually spc freeman anyone with a basic understanding of quantum physics could tell that the multiverse theory is sound just as sound as believing in god and they have as much evidence for that theory as you do in your god because all the evidence you have is a book that has been written and rewritten more times then any other religious text in the world you don't have physical evidence other than that book and before you name theologians who proclaim Yahweh exists remember they too only have that book therefore there is no other exact undeniable evidence anymore then what science has to disprove him
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Any eveidence either for or against is in the heart and mind of the believer. Scotoma; the eye sees what it chooses to see. I see a tree, you see GOD. I see a bust of Poseidon, you see a statue of a bearded hippie. The evidence is in ALL things, but it is what the BELIEVER CHOOSES TO BELIEVE that makes it nature or clerical evidence of divinty. I am Hellenic. For those who do not know what that is, I follow, believe in, and worship the gods of Olympus. Do I see evidence of their existence? Absolutely. More in people than nature, but I see it. Now that same eveidence that I see, you may interpret an entirely different way. They say that seeing is believing. But you'll only see what you truly believe.
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SSG James Arlington
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The Texas floods.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
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Not sure what you mean by this.
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I apologize in advance or the wall of text.

The way I look at it, there IS some higher power out there that either keeps all these tested and proven scientific systems working, or is an engineer of sorts that created them to keep the universe working.

Is this force sentient? Is it conscious? Can it hear, speak, touch, and such? Is it one being? No one really knows; and even if they do, there will always be those who refuse to believe. After all, there are still people who refuse to believe the Earth is round.

The way I see it, fact is just an opinion or explanation that is universally accepted and regarded as such. Change one rule, and it all changes. Add one more number, and math falls to pieces, for example. Facts change as we gain more understanding.

Back on subject. I do not think it matters WHAT you believe so long as you live your life with good character. Virtues and such. Kind, respectful, and such. You know right from wrong whether you believe in God or not, so live in the right, and you can't be wrong can you?

Think of it this way: there have been entire civilizations based around many different religions. The ancient Greeks, Egyptians, Mayans, Norse, Asian cultures, and countless more all believed in divine entities ages before there was any reference of "God." Are we to believe that this Christian God condemned literally millions of people all because they called him by multiple or different names?

The stories in the scripts may be different, but it isn't the story itself that is important, but the messages they convey, the lessons and virtues they inspire, that are important. A truly perfect being, I believe, would not condemn someone to a hellish afterlife simply because they called the being the wrong name, or read the wrong stories. Character earns your place in whatever waits after death, not simple words and names. If you focus too much on the minor details, you will fail to see the bigger picture. If I am truly to abide to rules set by a script to a point, then what happened to all of those who came before it was written? Is ignorance (or rather, impossibility) truly a reason to condemn them? Even if they lived a less "sinful" life than mine?

No matter what or who "God" is, or if it or the afterlife is even a thing, I believe that we may not even know its true name, or even the real story. But, we have the lessons. We know what is right. Do it, and you will be rewarded, either by a peaceful afterlife, or a pleasant memory. Details have seeded the wars, not the lessons, not the virtues. There are good people in every culture, and there are bad, regardless of belief.

I apologize again for the wall of text
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I dont think there is a "best" argument for or against a Supreme God" Its a very argumentative subject like Politics "which we shouldnt discuss lol" and abortion. If someone believes a certain way it has been instilled in them since a very young age. You dont change someones beliefs and if by chance you do...very well played brother...very well played!
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SFC Jason Hodge
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•"Does God know he exists?" "Of course he does. Otherwise, you could not have asked the question, and I could not have answered." ◦Douglas Adams
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SSgt Data Records
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Can this thread die already?
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SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD
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Hey, SSgt. Just because you don't have an answer, or feel somewhat uncomfortable with this subject, then don't follow this thread. There are those who want to discuss this thread. Thank you for your service. Blessings.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
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There are no good arguments for or against the existence of God because the existence cannot be proved or disproved; that's why it's called "Faith".
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