Posted on Apr 12, 2015
Does God exist? Or, is there a God?
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What are the best arguments for or against the existence of God?
I mean an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent Supreme Being -- the eternally and necessarily extant Creator of the universe.
Atheists, Theists, Agnostics, Polytheists, Pantheists and anyone else are all welcome to weigh in!
I'm not asking what you believe, I'm asking about the best arguments for or against the existence of God.
To clarify omnibenevolence, I mean simply 'perfect goodness,' not "the quality of being kind and generous towards everyone and everything." CH (CPT) (Join to see)
I mean an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent Supreme Being -- the eternally and necessarily extant Creator of the universe.
Atheists, Theists, Agnostics, Polytheists, Pantheists and anyone else are all welcome to weigh in!
I'm not asking what you believe, I'm asking about the best arguments for or against the existence of God.
To clarify omnibenevolence, I mean simply 'perfect goodness,' not "the quality of being kind and generous towards everyone and everything." CH (CPT) (Join to see)
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I absolutely believe he exists. I have a very personal relationship with him. I believe that religion has aided the nonbeliever. It boils down to faith. I ask an atheist if they had faith and their answer is no until I prove to them that they actually do in doctors, family, friends... I have faith on someone that can not be seen but definitely can be felt. There are too many things that have happened in my life to discount a higher being. God and science can coexist. I believe Einstein even stated something to that effect.
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Was there not a big atheist, like the person that ran the whole thing, that said on his dying bed that he was wrong about everything?? I know they SAY something was said, but I wonder if it is the truth. Either way, you did remarkable. You definitely should be proud of yourself. I know that I am proud of you as a Christian and I KNOW JC and the God all Mighty is. Good Night, and have the best of dreams. SPC D W
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SPC D W
I have heard rumors about the big atheist, SGT (Join to see). I do know that both Lee Strobel and Josh McDowell were big atheists prior to an honest investigation.
Josh McDowell's own testimony is actually remarkably like Cpt Kisely and Lt Sudnik: he hated Christians and took every opportunity to belittle and flat out attack them.
And then one of his friends challenged him to HONESTLY investigate the events.
He became a Christian.
The same is rumored for C S Lewis and Simon Greenleaf, though I don't know for sure.
I do know that longtime atheist Anthony Flew, recorded as the world's most intellectual atheist, died a deist, if not a Christian. And actually wrote a book, "There IS a God."
Some people take a while, however. Despite how others respond.
That said, thank you for the support! :-)
Josh McDowell's own testimony is actually remarkably like Cpt Kisely and Lt Sudnik: he hated Christians and took every opportunity to belittle and flat out attack them.
And then one of his friends challenged him to HONESTLY investigate the events.
He became a Christian.
The same is rumored for C S Lewis and Simon Greenleaf, though I don't know for sure.
I do know that longtime atheist Anthony Flew, recorded as the world's most intellectual atheist, died a deist, if not a Christian. And actually wrote a book, "There IS a God."
Some people take a while, however. Despite how others respond.
That said, thank you for the support! :-)
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PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM
SPC D W - SPC, Have you ever read the history of perhaps one of our Greatest Presidents, Abraham Lincoln? If not I challenge you to read the whole life of Abraham Lincoln, who was among the greatest of God-haters in his youth - blaming God for death of his beloved mother, death of a close sister, death of his beloved fiancee, and death of his children after he did get married . . . yet as he learned to understand and who to blame, he became among the greatest God lovers! Talk about Atheists seeing the light, consider the famous atheist Chris Hitchens. With cancer at age 61, facing and feeling his mortality, he already has greatly changed his rhetoric, and is "Thanking people almost daily in the press . . . FOR PRAYING FOR HIM!"
And there was Thomas Payne Author of Common Sense at the time of our Republic's beginning. He was the leading atheistic writer in American colonies: but on his death bed he wrote: "Stay with me, for God's sake; I cannot bear to be left alone , O Lord, help me! O God, what have I done to suffer so much? What will become of me hereafter? "I would give worlds if I had them, that The Age of Reason had never been published. O Lord, help me! JESUS, help me! …No, don't leave;"
You cannot get much better proof than that...
And there was Thomas Payne Author of Common Sense at the time of our Republic's beginning. He was the leading atheistic writer in American colonies: but on his death bed he wrote: "Stay with me, for God's sake; I cannot bear to be left alone , O Lord, help me! O God, what have I done to suffer so much? What will become of me hereafter? "I would give worlds if I had them, that The Age of Reason had never been published. O Lord, help me! JESUS, help me! …No, don't leave;"
You cannot get much better proof than that...
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LTC Wayne Brandon
You hit the nail on the head, Sgt! It is all about faith: Heb. 11:1 tells us: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
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I have seen the hand of God in my own life. It's hard for me to communicate those experiences and answers to prayer, as well as the influence of the Holy Spirit within my life.
My best argument is that if concrete proof exists, what then is the value of faith? If you want to see proof, then try faith. I believe that God will reveal himself to anyone that truly wishes for him to be within their life. The Holy Spirit is undeniable once felt.
To quote Yo Gabba Gabba, "Try it, you'll like it!"
My best argument is that if concrete proof exists, what then is the value of faith? If you want to see proof, then try faith. I believe that God will reveal himself to anyone that truly wishes for him to be within their life. The Holy Spirit is undeniable once felt.
To quote Yo Gabba Gabba, "Try it, you'll like it!"
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth - experience is another thing that doesn't make your belief true. Just because you experience something you can't understand, doesn't mean it was a deity. It just means you lack the knowledge of what transpired, or are unwilling to accept that things just happen.
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SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas - and you don't see any issues with that statement. SO long as you find the right church (the one you believe in and your religious preference) then all things are all good. Sooooo what about everyone else?
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SFC Walter Mack
Just curious, are you trying to convince us..., or yourself? I'm pretty comfortable in my Christian faith. Virtual particles do not come from nothing. They are photons interacting with electromagnetic fields. It is possible to have science and religion. Even the Bible points out that man is capable of understanding the world that God has put into motion (tower of Babel). Calm down and science on. I'd encourage the study of God's wonderful creation.
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We have tried these threads and quickly see things deteriorate. Make nice, no personal attacks, no recruiting others to gang up and attack members, etc. High School was a long time ago. If you get called out on your behavior or actions by an admin and continue, expect hurt feelings.
Matthew 22:36-40 - "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40 - "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
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What if we are just a science experiment for a very advanced alien society...lol
Kind of like that LTC Bink Romanick.
Kind of like that LTC Bink Romanick.
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Cpl Robert Lowes - no, no we can't agree that a force created the universe. because that's not how things work.
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