Posted on May 30, 2018
Does the AF have a rule that enlisted are to use warrant/commissioned US insignia on their lapels, as opposed to the circular metallic disk?
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I realize this !at sound kinda oddball, however, I'm assuming what I'd seen in a video about it is true, though I've seen nothing about it anywhere, of any of you've ever heard about it...apparently, a few years ago, USAF had some sort of rule, of heard in a video, that enlisted were to use warrant/commissioned US insignia on their lapels, as opposed to the US on the circular metallic disk.
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Capt Daniel Goodman - Sir, are you referring to the "US" lapel insignia on the service dress jacket? If so, then yes we did for a period of time. The Good Idea Fairy visited during the McPeak era and it was decided we should all look like American Airlines pilots instead of military members. Several changes to the uniform occurred before sanity returned and we once again started looking more "military" and less "corporate". As far as I know, enlisted have returned to the standards of wearing US insignia with the circle around it as they did before the buffoonery occurred.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
Yes, You are correct, In fact the AF Chief of Staff, General Ronald F. Fogleman that followed McPeak set out to repair as much of the damage McPeak did as soon as He took Command. The US with the circle is back for enlisted members, it was only during the McPeak era that existed. General Fogleman also took of the foolish looking silver stripes on the uniform sleeves and put the officers rank back on the shoulder. General Fogleman changed as many things back to normal as He could without any major cost instead of wasting billions of dollars the was McPeak did to inflate His own ego and the look and see what I did attitude of His. I loved everything General Fogleman did !
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Capt Daniel Goodman
I also just thought, after I'd sent that, when I'd gone in, we'd been allowed open-neck collar short-sleeve shirts...awhile after I was in, that got changed to the ones with the blue tie, and the epaulet straps on the shoulders...I'd just remembered that, as well, not that it necessarily has anything to do with the whole circular-disk thing, of course...I just loved those open-neck short-sleeve shirts, the absence of a tie, combined with the softness of the fabric used in them, was just so much more comfortable, you know? As I'd said, just an errant thought, obviously...I think the whole rationale for the shirts with the ties was to also look more corporate, as I think back about what I'd heard about it all back then...interesting analogy, certainly if nothing else, you know?
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If I’m not mistaken I think the circular metallic desk is unique to the army.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
I'd thought so, too, then I'd seen that YouTube video I'd mentioned, which said what was also mentioned above here, that the non-disk insignia were apparently used for enlisted for awhile...I'd just found the YouTube video of interest, and had always meant to ask about it on here, that was all, many thanks, in any event....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
Interesting...if you Eger see anything on it, of love to see it, many thanks, as I'd said, the video was serious, so I figured it was for real, many thanks....
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