Posted on Sep 18, 2016
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I know I'm probably playing with fire and causing people to be uncomfortable, but I can honestly sit and have this conversation with anyone and not get upset. I just want to know peoples views who served and who is currently serving now. If you don't think any of it exist please explain why. Thanks
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CPO Amb. Terry Earthwind Nichols
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First, do not apologize for a responsible question. You have been taught to preface controversy with sorrow. Second, I'm sorry you were taught that. Third, yes and yes to your question and THEY were taught that too.
We get to stop the status quo with our minds together for the greater good and not someone's pocket book.
Be proud of who you are as a person and not what others want you to be. Being around the people you speak of, you would find that they too are caught up in something they THINK they cannot get out of and they are right because whatever you place your mind on will come to you.
The news is paid to spin the divide high enough to keep us from joining together but that too will change with the internet.
I'm proud of you and there many many more of us out here...
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CW2 Donald Kempf
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Personally, I don't think of White privilege as much as economic privilege. Being poor, whether you are white, black, American indian etc. is much more of a hardship in my opinion than your race. It is funny, but growing up, I never knew I was poor, but my parents were always robbing Peter to pay Paul and while we didn't have bill collectors calling, we didn't have a great deal either. If you have money, you generally have the privilege.

I was a social outcast (Wrong side of the tracks) to the less economically challenged in my town (I cam from a fairly small town) and I'm sure that was also formative in my perspective on a lot of these topics. I'm now well off, not rich by any means but I don't struggle and live paycheck to paycheck anymore. And because I have some economic advantages now, I'm treated better than when I was poor. I'm not any better looking that is for sure.

One of the greatest things I found about the military, was it was one of the most race neutral places I had ever worked. We were all green and we all made it work. Sure there were slackers, there always are, and to be honest most slackers were white.

I also know that this perspective is my own, and that others, who grew up in different environments, have different experiences. So there it is.
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MSgt Carl Stokes
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If it does I somehow got left out, are you supposed to get a card or something?
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MSgt F 35 Weapons Requirements Manager
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I'm not sure that anyone could argue that there isn't people who believe in white supremacy . Outside of that I don't anyone who would agree with them. That of course does not mean that a large number of people didn't used to think this way.
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PO3 John Wagner
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Most white supremacists are unaware of the identity of one or both parents...I hardly think they are a serious force to be reckoned with.
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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Well I grew up poor, I have eaten gov cheese, and I remember food stamps when they were little colored coupons. My neighborhood wasn't the sort of place that you should be after dark unless you were from there. I am the only kid from my cub scout troop that didnt go to jail. Somehow this was my privileged. I had an amazing realization when I took my SAT test (mostly to get out of wrestling practice) I checked that I am part Native American, and I am, but not enough to qualify as a minority. With that single check mark, I went from hoping to get into any school to actively being perused by Princeton from the Ivy League. I saw a great advantage to being a native American and not a bit to being white. See, when you are white and poor, nobody helps you. So I can say with 100% assurance that there sure wasnt any privilege in my world
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I while comment on your post because we have many similarities. For instance I have eaten Govt Cheese and crackers (those things were brutal!) My neighborhood was both dangerous and loving at times. I was never considered for an Ivy League education but I did graduate from college and I attended Law School. I am part Indian as well but, like you, no one would believe me because of the color of my skin and the texture of my hair. Therefore I consider myself 100% African-American and I'm proud of it. I would not want to be anything else. With that, I think the privilege that is pre-eminent here is not so much that gives you anything per se but instead one that has historically been used to divide people of lower estate. What I mean by that is this. Well just consider this example.... Before slavery became predominant in the Americas there was a system of indentured servitude in which many poor people (the word "White", I don't think was being used that much yet; or Black for that matter when it came to identifying a person at first glance). Anyway when Slavery became predominant it took away the little bit of livelihood that some poor people had. Why pay anything for labor when you can have it for free? Well as Slavery began to dissipate and Blacks began to make their own way and enter the paid Labor force (really not... some were Sharecroppers, look it up if you are unaware) this became a direct problem to some poor Whites who started to see their livelihoods threatened once again by, not so much free, but cheaper labor. In order to drive the division deeply into our society "some" elites used wedge issues to disenfranchise Blacks and pit some poor Whites against them as if they were taking something away from them. Thus "Jim Crow" reared its ugly head. It is not so much the privilege that you see... it is the privilege that is thrust upon you that if you knew better you would not accept. Ever been hired by a Black man? Maybe not but think about it... What if these freed Slaves suddenly became land owners and were able to prosper and create jobs. Imagine how the wealth would have spread among us all. There is privilege in your world but you can't see it. It is tricky because it is not really privilege it is a trick. It needs you to survive. It needs you to ignore the problems Racism has created by saying "I didn't enslave anyone" indeed you didn't but are you BEING USED to continue the discrimination or indifference to others? Maybe you are not one of those people. Maybe you are good law abiding citizen who scorns Racism. Accept no benefit of Racism because if you do you are doing the bidding of Racists. That goes for anyone Black, White, Yellow, Red, or Brown. If the unemployment rate among African-American teens is at 10% something is wrong. Would you not agree? The problem could be of one's own making but that is no reason to ignore it and be indifferent. Just like it is my responsibility to help lift my White brothers and sisters, and brothers and sisters of all races. It is your duty to lift me up when I am down and vice-versa. The so called "privilege" is actually is the ignorance and indifference to societal wrongs against any of us. When we say "it is not my problem" when our neighbor's house is burning the fire soon spreads to our own. "A threat to Justice anywhere is a threat to Justice everywhere" is a quote from MLK.
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LCpl William Perry
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My view of white privilege is that it should be renamed to what it may really be. I say this as I now that there might be some places that do show favor to some, but I do not see it as a color or race thing. I have fought all my life and still to this day struggle with bills and all life has to throw at me. I have had bosses who have felt I have not fallen into their click, but as a Marine Vet I stand my guard and take no shit from anybody no matter the rank when I know I am right. With what I have heard about the concept of white privilege I should be living the life with no problems and have had everything handed to me but I can guarantee you when homeless for a year after my service, that I was given nothing and after a year was finally able to find a job. There is bias shown but I feel it goes far beyond color or sex to more of what they perceive is more of their social type or kind. As for me I will stay with my Brothers and Sister where we are all Green...Semper Fi!
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SSgt Cliff Bowers
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In my last unit before I retired in 2007, my OIC was a woman, the Maintenance Chief and SgtMaj were Black and the CO was Hispanic. White Privilege? Nothing but a bunch of snot nose nonsense. I don't care who that offends.
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I'm talking about history past slavery FYI
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SSgt Cliff Bowers
SSgt Cliff Bowers
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There is no explaining to any snot nose military or otherwise. You whine about what has "happened" or is "happening". Getting hot chow? Got a roof over your head? Not driving as nice a car as some white guy? I grew up in South Carolina and my best friend was a black kid who lived down the street. Neither of us had "privilege" we worked hard and stayed out of trouble. I am offended by the notion that I had some kind of edge because of my skin color. You and your friends think you are the only ones with the privilege to offend, well I ain't buying it. Keep yourselves buried in a hole that you yourself dug.
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SSgt Cliff Bowers
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Got news for you, YOU weren't a slave nor is any other black person living in this country today. History? One of the first slave owners in this country was black and a few of his slaves white. African tribal elders sold their children to Muslim slave traders because they were afraid to fight and die for their children. History is not just how you write it. SGT (Join to see) -
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SSgt Cliff Bowers
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By the way, I self identify as a 6'5" professional basketball player. Can I use my white privilege to get a job playing pro ball? SGT (Join to see) -
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CSM Thomas McGarry
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White "Privilege" may exist in certain instances but in my military career I've also seen the opposite-NCOs who were afraid to enforce standards on soldiers of minority groups because they were afraid of being called "racist". I've also seen soldiers of minority groups who were quick to try to play the race card when standards were enforced. This is not to say that either case is a pervasive problem as in my over my 36 years of service I've served with soldiers of many races and backgrounds and the vast majority of them were excellent soldiers!
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MAJ Assistant Professor Of Military Science
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http://www.allenbwest.com/allen/shocking-statistics-about-black-slavery-liberals-will-never-admit

This article goes to the heart of inequality facing black communities today. I didn't write it, LTC Allen West did. Food for thought.
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