Posted on May 24, 2021
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I am currently a 14S. I’ve done Basic and AIT. I want to go to college and commission through ROTC and go AD. I know Officer Candidate(Cadets) obviously does not count for TIG when being considered for promotion, but what about my ALL TOGETHER TIS? For example I have one year now, and I do four in college. Does that mean I now have 5 Years time in service because I am a cadet but am prior service?
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SMP time in the guard or reserve counts for time in service.
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CPT Lawrence Cable I'm about to find out what good points are for active duty retirement. I'll let you know.
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LTC (Join to see) for active duty, your points don't equate to time. Only your actual days spent on active duty count for time towards an AD retirement. Those days are counted as AD points, but all of your inactive/reserve time will not count towards your credit for AD retirement.

If you are about to retire and have service split between RC and AD, you should go and see your Career Counselor or S1. The regulation says that any officer who enters AD should immediately submit a DA 1506 upon entry to AD at their first duty station, but that almost never happens.
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LTC (Join to see) - You should get full credit for points for pay, IDT time just doesn't count for AD retirement years.
Good luck and congratulations.
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SFC (Join to see) I was involuntaraly mobilized in 2019-2020 applied and approved for sanctuary. I turned it down to return home to my family. Now an organization near me has funded and requested two year orders. My understanding matches yours, all those points don't do anything on a regular retirement only activity duty days.
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If you are SMP through your ROTC time, it will count towards your TIS.
Since you are MOS qualified, you should be exempt from the first two years of ROTC if you chose to skip them and then join in Junior year.
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It does in the National Guard, I don't know about the Reserves. It should be based on your Pay Entry Base Date (PEBD) on your Enlisted Record Brief (ERB).
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Does your 09R time count towards time in service in the Army?
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You'll only receive credit for pay purposes if you're contracted as an enlisted Soldier in the SMP, or if you enlist in the ARNG or USAR and then attend college and join the ROTC as a non-scholarship cadet. If you are an ROTC scholarship cadet you will receive no credit towards any time in service.
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IDT and AT will not count toward your active duty retirement. If you end up doing Title 10 orders what we call MPA and you guys call OPADOS or COADOS orders, that time should count. Your time in basic and AIT will count as that was under title 10 active duty orders. If you are participating in the unit as a regular or SMP, that time does count toward your time service brackets for pay but not for active retirement unless its title 10 ADOS duty, which I would be surprised if an SMP would be able to get. You would be an O1E in the 4 year bracket until the next year where you would roll over to the 6 year pay bracket.
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