Posted on Nov 2, 2016
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I have been in a debate with several other NCOs over this topic for awhile now. I was always taught you had to go and update your CAC every time you received a promotion. Your CAC serves as an identification card and needs to reflect your current rank. Several of my cohorts hold to the thought that you only need to update it when you reach E5 due to your Geneva Convention Category changing then.
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1SG Mike Case
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Now when I was laterally promoted to First Sergeant, I did not get my CAC changed to reflect the new rank, because I knew eventually I would not be a First Sergeant anymore. But I believe it should be updated with every promotion. Though I wish I had a CAC that had Specialist rank on it so when I go to the golf course, I don't have to pay as much.
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SGT Ben Keen
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It was my experience in that you did not update your CaC until you reached E5 because, as you stated, the change in the Geneva Convention Category. I do not see a problem with this for E1, E2, or E3 but I do think when you are promoted you should get a new CaC card because it shows great addition to detail and wanting to ensure all your issued gear, including ID Card are maintained.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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I would think that you would have it changed when became a CPL. Otherwise, one is stuck in the beer garden instead of NCO club.
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PO1 Cryptologic Technician (Technical)
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Neg. You have to update your ID to reflect your rank. Otherwise when going through the sentry at the gate, you are wearing a pay grade higher than the ID gives, it throws up flags for the sentry; thinking that you have a fake ID (given, that's not the case but there has been stories told). Also for Navy folk, getting onto a ship and going through the quarterdeck, it can sometimes raise alarms too. Plus when you have a senior enlisted looking at your ID.
Just have it updated when you get promoted; save yourself the bullcrap.
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SSG Tom Pike
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My CAC card says Civilian on it and I haven't had a military rank on an ID card in almost 28 years. Back when I was in you were not required to update your ID card until you changed Geneva Convention classifications. My ID card said E-1 until I made E-5.
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PO1 Cryptologic Technician (Technical)
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SSG Tom Pike - Interesting. Through E1-E3, you won't need to change it of course but I was told at E4 I had to (maybe because of the NCO rank in the Navy of PO3). You may not need to change it via the Army until E5.
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SSG Tom Pike
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PO1 (Join to see) - I just did some google searching. Ft Stewart says you get new ID cards for rank change of E-4 and above. So it looks like things have changed in 28 years.
http://www.stewart.army.mil/info/?id=470&p=11
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PO1 Cryptologic Technician (Technical)
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SSG Tom Pike - Idk if it's Military-wide but some bases could be honoring the old ways too....
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Does your CAC have to be updated to reflect current rank?
Cpl John Reeder
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I know when I was in Marines the first ID had E1-E3 on it then it was required to update for every promotion for E4 and Above
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MGySgt James Forward
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For USMC and Navy: New CAC at every promotion. Other Services may be different and reserves are a whole different ball game. Semper Fi
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MGySgt, the reserves is within 30 days following a promotion; cannot speak for other branches however.
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PO1 Memory Care Director
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In the Navy, E-1 to E-3 CACs only reflect the rank “NON-PO” with an empty pay grade slot. Once you make PO3 or E-4, I was instructed that we were to update our CACs, as E-4 in the Navy is an NCO. And as some people have mentioned, the Naval services (USN, USMC) update their CACs with every promotion. This may of course be different with other services, as I know SPC is not an NCO, and may follow Geneva Convention categories.
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CPL Robert Tucker
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I have been Retired 2005 on my ID military it was corporal E4 but the last time she put special E4 I no it paid the same money But I am A Corporal !!!!
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SSG Zachary Palmer
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Edited 9 y ago
I got mine updated every time I got promoted. Now mine has a green band and says contractor. The picture doesn't have enough hair. Maybe I'll fix that some day.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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It's a Geneva Convention Card first. On the Back (front now?) it has your Geneva Convention Code Privileges which need to correspond to your worn rank. As such, you need to update it when your "privileges" upgrade, not necessarily your rank, though rank is normally what we use.

In the Naval Services, we just change it every rank (after promotion to NCO). For the Army/Air Force your mileage may vary but if you're a SGT you should have SGT ID, and if you're SSG, same. For Non-NCO, it doesn't really matter.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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E-1 thru E-4 no. E-5 and up yes due to the Geneva Convention Category changes.
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