Posted on Jun 6, 2016
E5 new to the unit without dependent approved BAH, E3 with dependent disapproved. Can they do that?
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Hard to say without a closer look at your particular situation. If you want clarity, go visit the IG and ask them. They will sort out the truth for you.
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was your child born before you joined or while you were in. cause that actually plays a big factor...
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PFC Blair, Let me rehash this for a minute,
You are asking if you should get full BAH for your son and be allowed to move off base? However, based on your other answer, you are already receiving BAH Diff, and you are the non custodial parent, is that correct?
If so, based on those facts alone, the commander is the only one who can authorize you to move off base. As a PFC he's very unlikely to do so unless the barracks are full. Unfortunately that's the reality of your situation as a single soldier.
As has been previously stated, if you have primary physical custody of more than 50% of the year or 6 months out of the year, you are then authorized full BAH and have to move out of the barracks. Going to your CSM won't change the policy or your situation for the better based on all the information you have given us.
I'll also caution you about comparing your situation to the SGT's. One yes his rank will play into the decision of housing, as typically NCOs are more frequently given permission to live on the economy over Junior soldiers based on their demonstrated performance.
You are asking if you should get full BAH for your son and be allowed to move off base? However, based on your other answer, you are already receiving BAH Diff, and you are the non custodial parent, is that correct?
If so, based on those facts alone, the commander is the only one who can authorize you to move off base. As a PFC he's very unlikely to do so unless the barracks are full. Unfortunately that's the reality of your situation as a single soldier.
As has been previously stated, if you have primary physical custody of more than 50% of the year or 6 months out of the year, you are then authorized full BAH and have to move out of the barracks. Going to your CSM won't change the policy or your situation for the better based on all the information you have given us.
I'll also caution you about comparing your situation to the SGT's. One yes his rank will play into the decision of housing, as typically NCOs are more frequently given permission to live on the economy over Junior soldiers based on their demonstrated performance.
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Well Sgts typically rate BAH to get them out of the barracks. Is your dependent in your military record? Is he actually your son or did you adopt? If he's not actually your kid or you haven't registered him with the personnel to get him added to your military record, then no you wouldn't rate BAH. But if you have him documented, then you should rate BAH. It's not a command decision, it's a personnel decision. You should talk to your personnel department. For Marines it's DEERS/RAPIDS/IPAC. Not sure what it is for Army.
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Cpl Justin Goolsby
Then honestly, it shouldn't even be an issue. I don't know how it can be denied because it's not a command decision to make. I would definitely speak with your personnel dept because you rate BAH/BAS. Rank has nothing to do with the care of dependents.
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Maj (Join to see)
You can have a biological son, but if the child was born out of wedlock, without a court order for support or a demand for support from the mother, you may still not be entitled to BAH.
This is an Army question, but for the Marine order, Cpl Goolsby, look up MCO P1751.3 (F should be the latest) to see how complicated this gets.
This is an Army question, but for the Marine order, Cpl Goolsby, look up MCO P1751.3 (F should be the latest) to see how complicated this gets.
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CPT (Join to see)
BAH is not an entitlement for child support it is an entitlement for housing. If he does not have custody of the child either sole or shared then he does not get BAH. But if he is paying child support he can qualify for BAH-dif to help pay for that child support.
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PFC
Too many unknowns to give you the real answer. Do you have custody? Does your unit have you living in the barracks? The Sergeant is another issue that hardly concern you. Be a man and talk to your first line supervisor. If that don't work, tell them you want to speak to the next higher up, etc, etc..... Don't post part of the story and have people try to figure out why. Get all the fact together on your situation then ask your chain of command at the proper level.
Too many unknowns to give you the real answer. Do you have custody? Does your unit have you living in the barracks? The Sergeant is another issue that hardly concern you. Be a man and talk to your first line supervisor. If that don't work, tell them you want to speak to the next higher up, etc, etc..... Don't post part of the story and have people try to figure out why. Get all the fact together on your situation then ask your chain of command at the proper level.
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SPC (Join to see)
1SG (Join to see) I have talked to them over a course of months and I don't have custody I pay support and receive baq diff the fort Bragg finance has a policy which allows single soldiers who receive baq diff which states can move out of barracks under commanders approval
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SPC (Join to see) - Brother, your chain of command controls where you live. BAH is for housing, if you live in the barracks I don't believe you can legally receive BAH. A Soldier that gets divorced loses his BAH once the divorce is final regardless of having children unless he maintains full or partial custody. Unfortunately there is no assistance to help with the child support.
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SPC (Join to see)
It's not to help with child support its so my son can come visit me without me finding a hotel and be in a home incorporate I've take the policy which my finance gave me for the housing to my gain of command their only answer was cause of my rank point period
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Doesn't rallypoint sometimes add pictures to topics based on the subject? I think I've seen several post like this before and saw someone mention this.
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MSG (Join to see)
The pic of the German Soldier holding his child that you uploaded with your post. While I understand the simplicity of the pic being a dad holding his child, within the Army perception is key to anything you do. There are leaders on here or even perhaps leaders from your particular base on here, that could see that pic and perceive a whole different (and possibly negative) perception as to your meaning.
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I'm just going to say this:
1) Choose a different pic.
2) Did you bother to ask your Chain of Support if they could explain why before trying to blast the decisions of your Command on this site?
1) Choose a different pic.
2) Did you bother to ask your Chain of Support if they could explain why before trying to blast the decisions of your Command on this site?
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As SGM Marquez said, you need custody of the child. This needs to be a court document. Visitation alone is not enough, it must be custody either, sole, or joint.
Several posts do not have room for E5 to live in the barracks. So, BAH may be authorized for them to reside off post.
If you have joint custody of the child then goto housing. Housing will determine if you are authorized to not live in the barracks based off of DEERS, and custody agreements.
Several posts do not have room for E5 to live in the barracks. So, BAH may be authorized for them to reside off post.
If you have joint custody of the child then goto housing. Housing will determine if you are authorized to not live in the barracks based off of DEERS, and custody agreements.
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SPC (Join to see)
Finance and deers at fort Bragg have a policy for soldiers like me who have dependent a with no custody it's a commander descreasion SSG (Join to see)
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SPC (Join to see) - Unless child support was involved, I have NEVER seen a Command award BAH to a SM who was authorized normal Barracks habitation. (and not authorized housing)
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