Posted on Nov 12, 2015
‘Elite’ military units: Army Rangers. I just read a soldier didn't have to go to Ranger School to be a Ranger. Is that true?
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This is from this article written by an Ex-Ranger. Some of the things he has written are confusing to me. Yesterday at our Veterans Day lunch I met a guy, wearing a leather vest with all of the Ranger tabs and the pins and buttons associated with the 75th Rangers. He said he was a LRRP, and got assigned to a Ranger unit, but never went to Ranger school. He said it was more like OJT. He didn't have Jump Wings. He did have the three medals a Vietnam veteran received, plus an Air Medal, but said he rarely flew in a helicopter, and when he did it was an H-13 scout helicopter.
For all of you Rangers out there, I'm asking if this guy could be for real or is an embellisher. He had a book written by a "friend" about his tour with the Rangers. It was inscribed to this guy and he showed us a page in the book, with, he says is his picture. lt was black and white, and faded. The guy he showed us was supposed to be him, didn't look anything like him. He talked a lot about his tour. He said their AO was in AnKhe. I got suspicious when he didn't answer some questions I asked about AnKhe. I hope I'm wrong. He seemed like a nice guy.
From the authors article:
Some who did serve in Ranger units never attended Ranger School and some who graduated from Ranger School, like me, never served in a Ranger unit. Ranger School graduation is not a prerequisite for serving in a Ranger unit, but it is a prerequisite for serving in a leadership position in a Ranger unit.
The Link:
http://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-blog-about-military-matters/65802307-elite-military-units-army-rangers
For all of you Rangers out there, I'm asking if this guy could be for real or is an embellisher. He had a book written by a "friend" about his tour with the Rangers. It was inscribed to this guy and he showed us a page in the book, with, he says is his picture. lt was black and white, and faded. The guy he showed us was supposed to be him, didn't look anything like him. He talked a lot about his tour. He said their AO was in AnKhe. I got suspicious when he didn't answer some questions I asked about AnKhe. I hope I'm wrong. He seemed like a nice guy.
From the authors article:
Some who did serve in Ranger units never attended Ranger School and some who graduated from Ranger School, like me, never served in a Ranger unit. Ranger School graduation is not a prerequisite for serving in a Ranger unit, but it is a prerequisite for serving in a leadership position in a Ranger unit.
The Link:
http://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-blog-about-military-matters/65802307-elite-military-units-army-rangers
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Ranger School is just that, a school. It is not part of the elite Ranger Regiment. Those who graduate Ranger School call themselves "Rangers" but to the eyes of the Ranger Regiment, that does not qualify them to serve in the Ranger Regiment. Rangers go through RASP, Ranger Assessment and Selection Program before being assigned as a Ranger within the Ranger Regiment. Though the young Rangers have not gone through Ranger School, their gradation from RASP, subsequent assignment within the Regiment and conducting Special Operations missions is the true meaning of being an Airborne Ranger within our Army. The saying goes, "Ranger school is just a school. The Scroll is a way of life." So when you hear someone say they are a Ranger, the next question should be, "What Ranger Battalion did you serve in?" If they never served in Regiment and one of the Battalions, then they are just "Ranger school qualified" and never conducted special operations missions as a Ranger. I know this may cause heartache to those that call themselves Rangers when they go clubbing on a Friday night or say it to their girlfriends and family, but those are the facts.
Now those that served in Ranger units in Viet Nam are still considered Rangers to all of us. To this day, there are those who attend Ranger school and have never been to jump school. We call them, "leg Rangers."
Now those that served in Ranger units in Viet Nam are still considered Rangers to all of us. To this day, there are those who attend Ranger school and have never been to jump school. We call them, "leg Rangers."
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SSG Don Maggart
MAJ Steven Szymurski - C/51rst infantry was one of those units Sir it's Roster is on the internet...laffs
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SSG Don Maggart
2LT Tom Waters - Then you need to get an education on the LRP lineage that made the Ranger school what it is today Sir...laffs Read Right then Up Sir it will take you places...
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SSG Don Maggart
Too many have died perfecting the the craft we call Special Operations to treat it like a frat Sorority it is a Leadership Development School taught in the wilds plain and simple...laffs
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SSG Don Maggart
Chapter 1-1 of the Ranger Handbook starts off with Leadership not Bragging rights it ends with finish them with your hatchet...laffs
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CPT Jack Durish
SGT (Join to see) - They were the inspiration for the Rangers and Commandos who followed. They didn't have to study the book. They wrote it...
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COL (Join to see)
CSM Hayden. You are spot on. The 6 colors on the Ranger flash were the 6 BNs of the Marauders. 503rd Provincial. 3000 soldiers less than 500 made it back
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My best advice would be that, unless you are certain or have proof that he is faking, assume he is not. The one thing worse than someone stealing valor, is someone falsely accusing a vet of stolen valor. Don't be that guy or gal.
A Female Captain is Humiliated for 'Stolen Valor.' After Numerous Ugly Insults, the Truth Comes...
"You see that?? It's a kitchen. Get the f*** back into it."
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SGT (Join to see)
I agree, COL Sam Russell, That's why I'm asking about it on RP. I would never claim someone is a phonie or lying without positive proof.
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