Posted on Jul 15, 2014
CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Original article 30 june
Warrant officer boo boo
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The posting about the Army adopting or looking at sleeves on the ACU being rolled up because some folks think that it is hot, a garrison thing or whatever, really made me red in the face and embarrassed to be a warrant officer. I pose to you the survey just so we can keep track, but the issue is that sometimes folks go out of their way to not only embarrass themselves, but everyone associated with the rank in which they wear, their branch or even service.

The 30 June article in the ARMY TIMES was highlighted by a photo of a aviator claimed to be a CW3 in the wording, with a CW2 photo of a aviation army combat uniform, otherwise known as the A2CU. His sleeves were rolled up and he was obviously wearing a Stetson, which in turn eluded to the fact he was Cavalry.

I am not going to dispute the findings of the ARMY TIMES since that article that the officer in question has a very questionable career, integrity and lack of Army Values. What really gets under my skin is his lack of regard for his brothers and sisters first of all in the warrant officer corps, then the aviation branch, followed by the Calvary and finally the Army as a whole.

I must quote his phone interview to the ARMY TIMES with regard to his everyday wearing of the uniform in violation of 670-1, "I basically give them 'the look' - dare them to say something". I was appalled and hit the floor almost passed out that a fellow warrant officer would publicly donate a photo and such words to represent the whole population. The harm is done. The amount of readers and viewers of this obviously will not see the investigation into his service and past to know that this guy is not credible.

So I am embarrassed for my rank (warrant officers) in the branch and the Army. I have to defend our rank because a knucklehead spoke out and no one will look past his comment on 30 June. It already is hard as aviators get to un-blouse their boots when flying and often forget to tuck them back in afterwards. Often aviators push limits on haircuts, sideburns and mustaches, but this was a bit over the top.

Several thing spoke to me in the article. The ARMY TIMES did not research the officer with much detail. The officer whether Guard, Reserve or Active duty is wrong. Rolling up sleeves when not authorized and walking around with an attitude against officers and Soldiers alike is criminal. Surely if an officer told him to roll up his sleeves and he gave that 'look', that he would be charged with UCMJ.

This article and policy, I really don't care about, the Army did me a favor having me wear my sleeves down. I no longer have skin cancer on my forearms! Trust me when I say it stinks having pieces of you cut out for it. If the Army gave the option today, I would only roll them up to be uniformly in a formation with the rest of the Soldiers.

So this gentleman, CW2 or CW3 Calhoun has embarrassed and tarnished the idea of a warrant officer to me. Probably to a lot of others, or he validated a prejudice already of how warrant officers can or may be perceived. He went further wearing the CAV Stetson, saying he was in USASOC, mentioning SOF and being an aviator. None of these grant him immunity from proper wear of the uniform. I would hope he was proud of his rank, branch and service enough to comply.

So the question to you is have you ever been embarrassed for your rank, branch or service?

EXAMPLES: Remember the Airman sticking the tongue out on the POW symbol? The Soldiers on funeral detail and casket? We could go on, but are you affected?
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SSG General Services Technician And State Vehicle Inspector
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CW5 Sam R. Baker , I voted for all of the above for a multitude of reasons. Before I go into that though, I will preface it by stating it's okay for any of us to have these feelings BUT it the poor actions of others is not indicative of the rank, branch or service.

For me, I am a 23 yr TIS Army Quartermaster (I'm out and retired in 6 days). My specific MOS is 92Y, which is a Supply SGT. Throughout my career, I have seen a plethora of horrible SSGs, horrible supply personnel and horrible Army personnel. I do blame each of those individuals for their actions but I know many will do blanket judgements. For example, I hear a lot of garbage about how awful supply sergeants are with the supply rooms. Yes, there are some idiotic ones but there are also some great ones too. We have to take each situation as it is and not blame an entire group for the dumb actions of one or a few. I have met dumb individuals from every single rank across the military, as well as idiots in just about every MOS. I can honestly say the individual in this article is an idiot and I surely don't blame ALL Warrants or aviators.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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True to task, but I have a friend whom I have known since church basketball back in 1976 who has never served a day in the military and I would suggest that the actions of a few can taint the perception and spoil the reputation of us all at some point.

Ask any CSM usually about how warrants are and you will see most have a sour taste, especially if the warrant is prior service. I have never had a warrant say a negative thing, but it was not until I was a CW3 and held in confidence that a 1SG came to me and said those words.

Glad to see you have a open view to all and are not tarnished by the few.
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PO1 Ron Clark
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DEFINITELY NOT! Always proud of both!
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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I'm Air Force....that should say it all. We do some really stupid things very publicly at times.
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I feel there is an equal opportunity of poor (read:stupid) judgment across all Branches. :)
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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Absolutely... You can't fix stupid.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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I felt bad in Afghanistan for my cousin in the Air Force. He is or was a C5 pilot and while he was there at Kandahar with me, I had the opportunity to see his crew and him at work. They were attempting to load a F-18 onto their aircraft. I noticed a few things as a helicopter pilot in the Army.

This was of course after I asked my cousin about his aircraft, weight limits, shoring requirements and winch limits. Of course he was a "pilot" therefore he did not know much of what I asked. Therefore I inquired with the load master. He asnwered the questions and then I advised him as a "army helo pilot" that he was going to exceed his capabilities. He laughed and merely said, Chief, you're a pilot, back here is my business, so I said to him to proceed. Well once the over-grossed aircraft made it onto the ramp of the C5 there were these very loud POPS! With all the media filming and taking pictures, the F-18 had exceeded the weight of the ramp and burst the supporting beam rivets to the aircraft.

The single day extraction of this aircraft left the C5 and its crew in Kandahar for 3-4 days and damaged the C5 badly. I felt bad for the AF that day and was a little embarrassed for them with all the hype and media watching such a issue.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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Capital "A" Airmen tend to get a bit big for their britches at times.
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I was highly embarassed to have served in the Air Force after the disgraceful casket posing photos of Airmen were released. Utterly disgusting behavior!
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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That is understandable as I was when the Abu Grab thing happened with the MPs.
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Mortifying. Worse yet was that there were NCOs in the photo. And to try to say that it was a team photo, and since they "worked Mortuary Services", etc... Appalling!!
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SSG Maurice P.
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CW5 BAKER do you really think a Spc and a Ssg did all that on their own (just thought it up and did it) they werent trying to just make fun of them terrorists that was Psychological warfare MAYBE PSYCHE OPS HAD A HAND IN IT MAYBE THE CIA WHO WAS IN IRAQ AT THE TIME we will never know it was covered up and 2 low enlisted got burnt...like LT calley in 1968...how do you break someones will if they arent afraid to die and will kill themselves with no hesitation...you use things that they are inherently afraid of like parading them naked being lead by a female shaving them and shaming them
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SFC Mark Merino
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CW5 Sam R. Baker I needed a Private to show me how to send a fax back in 1997. Not many faxes going out in infantry vs aviation as a reclass. I'm sure there are many other examples that I have repressed.........
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Ah the glorious FAX, the IRS and other government agencies still require a FAX. I asked about sending a .pdf document to them via email, they said that they only;y take FAX still. Don't lose that skill just yet!
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SFC Mark Merino
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I' m just embarrassed that he was air cav.
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CPO Ars/Fod Lcpo
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I remember an admiral's gig line that was jacked up during a promotion ceremony...
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SFC Mark Merino
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Did you run up mid-comment and make an adjustment? NCO's lead the way......to the brig.
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CPO Ars/Fod Lcpo
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Lol it's on video where i saw it.
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Being in the national guard I have been embarrassed several times by things some guards men have done and when talking to a retiree or an active duty person I have been embarrassed for my service for the fact of when I deployed I deployed with my infantry company yet I was a mechanic because we needed another mechanic and I had the MOS. So I didn't do all that my brothers did even though thank god non one got seriously injured or we lost anyone in our deployment.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Congrats on the successful deployment and not losing anyone is always an accomplishment.
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SGT Marvin "Dave" Bigham
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Never... well, okay , but only after the Army/Navy games. I have never felt shame for someone else, but I can see many (including the subject of that article) that should feel it. ...and maybe a few choice college-age football players.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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ARMY NAVY, and it appears we will yet again be defeated this year the way NAVY is playing.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
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Occasionally I see something that can be corrected in the news media or in person
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Absolutely Sir!
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CW3 Maintenance Technician
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Sir,
Here is another article on this guy, don't know how true it is but it's relatively disturbing.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=53866
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Thanks, I went and read it, not bad, some language there demonstrates why I asked the question and how others who see it feel there is validity to the claim by this warrant officer.

Thanks for chiming in.
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