Posted on Jul 15, 2014
CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Original article 30 june
Warrant officer boo boo
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The posting about the Army adopting or looking at sleeves on the ACU being rolled up because some folks think that it is hot, a garrison thing or whatever, really made me red in the face and embarrassed to be a warrant officer. I pose to you the survey just so we can keep track, but the issue is that sometimes folks go out of their way to not only embarrass themselves, but everyone associated with the rank in which they wear, their branch or even service.

The 30 June article in the ARMY TIMES was highlighted by a photo of a aviator claimed to be a CW3 in the wording, with a CW2 photo of a aviation army combat uniform, otherwise known as the A2CU. His sleeves were rolled up and he was obviously wearing a Stetson, which in turn eluded to the fact he was Cavalry.

I am not going to dispute the findings of the ARMY TIMES since that article that the officer in question has a very questionable career, integrity and lack of Army Values. What really gets under my skin is his lack of regard for his brothers and sisters first of all in the warrant officer corps, then the aviation branch, followed by the Calvary and finally the Army as a whole.

I must quote his phone interview to the ARMY TIMES with regard to his everyday wearing of the uniform in violation of 670-1, "I basically give them 'the look' - dare them to say something". I was appalled and hit the floor almost passed out that a fellow warrant officer would publicly donate a photo and such words to represent the whole population. The harm is done. The amount of readers and viewers of this obviously will not see the investigation into his service and past to know that this guy is not credible.

So I am embarrassed for my rank (warrant officers) in the branch and the Army. I have to defend our rank because a knucklehead spoke out and no one will look past his comment on 30 June. It already is hard as aviators get to un-blouse their boots when flying and often forget to tuck them back in afterwards. Often aviators push limits on haircuts, sideburns and mustaches, but this was a bit over the top.

Several thing spoke to me in the article. The ARMY TIMES did not research the officer with much detail. The officer whether Guard, Reserve or Active duty is wrong. Rolling up sleeves when not authorized and walking around with an attitude against officers and Soldiers alike is criminal. Surely if an officer told him to roll up his sleeves and he gave that 'look', that he would be charged with UCMJ.

This article and policy, I really don't care about, the Army did me a favor having me wear my sleeves down. I no longer have skin cancer on my forearms! Trust me when I say it stinks having pieces of you cut out for it. If the Army gave the option today, I would only roll them up to be uniformly in a formation with the rest of the Soldiers.

So this gentleman, CW2 or CW3 Calhoun has embarrassed and tarnished the idea of a warrant officer to me. Probably to a lot of others, or he validated a prejudice already of how warrant officers can or may be perceived. He went further wearing the CAV Stetson, saying he was in USASOC, mentioning SOF and being an aviator. None of these grant him immunity from proper wear of the uniform. I would hope he was proud of his rank, branch and service enough to comply.

So the question to you is have you ever been embarrassed for your rank, branch or service?

EXAMPLES: Remember the Airman sticking the tongue out on the POW symbol? The Soldiers on funeral detail and casket? We could go on, but are you affected?
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PO1 John Miller
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All. The. Time. Especially in this digital age where everybody has Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. You do one stupid thing in uniform and it's memorialized forever. Just check out the various Facebook groups for good examples. There's U.S. Army WTF! moments, U.S. Navy Shit My LPO Says, and many others for good (no pun intended) examples of how not to conduct yourself in uniform.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Ever so true and I can only hope and pray that everyone gets the DoD policy letter about online conduct now being punishable under regulation. One should stick to if it isn't positive or you won't say it in front of someone face to face, then it probably shouldn't be said online.
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SPC Charles Brown
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Not embarrassed by my rank, my branch, or my service. I have however been embarrassed by the leadership that descends from on High. Now more than ever.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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HOOAH!
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MSgt Security Business Analyst
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I was constantly getting embarrassed by NCO's in the Air Force and how most of us were not leading or setting any examples for our junior enlisted. Sure, I may have sucked at PT, but I put 110% effort into it.

AF Security Forces is supposed to exceed the standard and enforce all standards, policies, and guidelines. In general we fail at enforcing. We enforce when it is convient and not all of the time.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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MSgt (Join to see), I used to be a MP in the Army before the flying days. I understand exactly where you are coming from and quite parallel to that is the aviation warrant officer. The APFT is one thing most probably wish they did not have to do, however there is this part of flying that they call the enemy! He or she has a vote as to whether or not I stay airborne and if they happen chance to win that battle, it is up to each of us to be fit enough to evade and get away. Not being able to pass a APFT or do rather well and definitely not being able to see one's toes, can be a problem.
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Oh, I can see my toes and even ruck for long distances. If put in a position of survival, you bet your sweet ass (Sir) that we both would make it home.
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CWO4 Nuclear Weapons Technical Inspector
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Never, my only regret is that I wasn't born in a Navy hospital.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Do tell? Why?
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SCPO Missile Technician
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I'm only embarrassed by a couple I work with.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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a couple or a couple of folks?
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Col Joseph Lenertz
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When I listen to an O-4 speak at WEPTAC with authority, detailed knowledge, and professional passion for the challenges he faced with OIF command structures and CAS execution, I am proud. Then, when an O-6 follows up with flowery words, PC generalities, and proceeds to stumble around the stage talking for far too long, I am embarrassed. We need to police our own and demand the best of ourselves every time.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Sir, much appreciated feedback and reply. I too have been in a few of those meetings and briefings, with several different grade plates and echelons........thanks for your service.
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SSG Izzy Abbass
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Not really. Love being Army Infantry (doesn't everyone in the military think they do what we do) and loved being an E-6 - our humor has to be the best.
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http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=53866

I just read this about guy. He was a bit off in the Army times article.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Agreed on all counts, read both Times articles and the "this ain't hell" article, sure more will come out about this!
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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His Facebook is disabled now also!
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Having your sleeves rolled up like that and thinking its cool...... There was something wrong with that man.
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SSG Ed Mikus
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The Army is regularly in the news because some solider acted out in a big and horrible way, because there military it is never this person did this, it is A Solider did this, and it is shameful.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Exactly where I kind of was going with the query!
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COL Vincent Stoneking
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As I read my Army Times today, Allegedly, the the 21 July edition (I don't have a time machine, I swear.), they have a follow-up article on page 19.

The short version is:
Army: We kicked this guy out way back in April with an OTH. And He USED to be a CW2.
CW2/3ish: Nuh-uh!
Army: Here are the documents.
CW2/3ish: I'm busy & Out of the country & in the hospital & leave me alone.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Yes sir, the updated article is one of the photos I attached at the top, actually both articles!
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COL Vincent Stoneking
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Doh! As the saying goes, it's only a lot of reading if you do it.
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SSG Aircraft Mechanic
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Maybe not so much embarrassed as disappointed. I've seen increasing instances of the quality of leadership and the quality of soldier in general degrading terribly. I'm afraid that , through this drawdown, those are the types that are going to be held on to and the good ones are going to be the fat that's trimmed leaving us with a completely toxic environment.

Oh, being a former Cavalryman I have to say something. CAVALRY not Calvary. Calvary has something to do with church.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Damn spell check, see what I mean, that's what I get on these devices, not to mention small print!
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SSG Aircraft Mechanic
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It'd be nice if spell check could detect context, wouldn't it, Sir?
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