Posted on Jul 24, 2015
Everyone who enters the military has to take the Oath of Enlistment or Oath of Office. Do you feel there is an expiration date to that oath?
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
Sorry SFC Jeff Gurchinoff, I don't understand your comment. I would never make fun (or try to demean) anyone's medals or service. I posted (my) Combat Action Ribbon, Humanitarian Service Medal, and Meritorious Service Medal in response to CPT (Join to see)'s weak attempt to put others down.
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SSG Joseph Leckie
I took the Oath back in 1978 and my Oath to my country will expire when I am dead.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
I never looked at the oath sworn at a reenlistment as a "renewal" SSG (Join to see) ... just a reaffirmation.
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SFC Jeff Gurchinoff
GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad - I was just joking, I spent too much time in service to get offended by anything
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Simple question. Simple answer. No. As far as I'm concerned, it never expires.
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There is no expiration, but there are parts which no longer apply, specifically:
"and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice."
As veteran, I no longer have to follow the orders of anyone. I am a Free Citizen of the United States, nor am I subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
"and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice."
As veteran, I no longer have to follow the orders of anyone. I am a Free Citizen of the United States, nor am I subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
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I wrote a blank check that day, up to and including my very life. I don't suspect I'll be able to get that back, nor would I want to. I'm a Sailor for life. Hoo-yah.
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CPT (Join to see) - Perhaps, Sir, but I assure you this Navy can call on me anytime and I would absolutely answer.
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SFC Jeff Gurchinoff
Considering my retirement pay is classified as "Retainer Pay" I think even the Government disagrees with you SGM haha
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SGM Matthew Quick
Very true, GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad...I'll always be a Marine and now I'm a Soldier for Life (it's a new thing the Army is trying out), BUT the question was about the 'Oath of Enlistment' (and commission).
Enlistments end and commissions are resigned...but I'll always be a Marine and a Soldier for Life.
Enlistments end and commissions are resigned...but I'll always be a Marine and a Soldier for Life.
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SGM Matthew Quick
The government and I may disagree on many things, SFC Jeff Gurchinoff...but when my enlistment ends (or a commission is resigned), it ends that.
Like I said above, I'm always a Marine and now I'll always be a Soldier for Life.
Like I said above, I'm always a Marine and now I'll always be a Soldier for Life.
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I feel this is a two answer question. My Obligation to this Government ends July 6 2018, 8 years after I signed my contract. At that time I'll have 7.7 years of Active Military Service, and I'll have a few months of IRR and then I'm done.
For Veterans I don't feel the Oath expires. The Obligation to the Government is done. But the Obligation to the people doesn't. You swore to protect and defend the constitution which includes the Bill of Rights. Even if we find the act reprehensible like that lady wiping her ass with the flag. We NEED to stand up and defend her freedom to do so, or we will lose our freedoms as well.
Veterans speak from a position of respect, we need to use it to help those that are still under contract and can not speak for themselves for fear of reprisal. You can't forget the brotherhood/sisterhood that you belong to just because you left active service. If the Government wrongs veterans like closing the Memorials (in spite, and just one example) we need to stand together and remind them that their are more of us then their are them and stand for those that came before us.
For Veterans I don't feel the Oath expires. The Obligation to the Government is done. But the Obligation to the people doesn't. You swore to protect and defend the constitution which includes the Bill of Rights. Even if we find the act reprehensible like that lady wiping her ass with the flag. We NEED to stand up and defend her freedom to do so, or we will lose our freedoms as well.
Veterans speak from a position of respect, we need to use it to help those that are still under contract and can not speak for themselves for fear of reprisal. You can't forget the brotherhood/sisterhood that you belong to just because you left active service. If the Government wrongs veterans like closing the Memorials (in spite, and just one example) we need to stand together and remind them that their are more of us then their are them and stand for those that came before us.
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I never really gave the matter much thought but I'd say that while the legal obligation has expired, MY obligation to the country and Air Force will never end.
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SFC Johnny Camacho
It's for life. Almost like being married! I took it in 75'. And feel the same, I honor my country!
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