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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)
PTSD
Posted 4 y ago
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I don't know his triggers, (no pun intended). It's hard to say what's in someone else's head.
I always loved dogs, then I went to a business, and their dog looked at me like it was friendly. I looked away and the dog was on me before I was able to turn back to it. It tore up my arm and did a lot of nerve damage which still gives me problems to this day. I was in the hospital for four days. It wasn't just a dog bite, they couldn't get the dog to release and he tore into the bone as well. I had a lot of problems with all dogs after that for some time. Then I purposely put myself around friends' dogs, even took care of them including giving the dogs pills. It's a weird thing with anxiety and PTSD, it hits you at the most inopportune time. You can be fine around dogs, then something I can't explain hits you and you're around a girlfriend's dog and you freeze up. All over again you see the blood gushing from your arm and just have to get out of there. I've gotta say, it's a good way to change girlfriends.
Others that I love have dealt with anxiety and depression over other things. Even doctors will tell you the meds take at least a month to see if they're even going to work. With my dad, we probably tried a dozen drugs. It ripped my heart out to see him gripped with depression after his heart problems. He went from very outgoing, to rarely going out. Then one day he got up and he was back again. Five years later he was coming home from church, froze, and we had to go get him. He refused to drive after that and was paralyzed with depression, wouldn't go out, for the last 3 years of his life. Otherwise, he was healthy, the doctors said all his other organs were in great shape. The doctors said it was the anxiety and depression that killed him. But he was 89, and if I make it to 89, I want it said that old age was the cause of my death.
We should know much more about mental illness. But the billionaires are too busy trying to go to Mars, than to do some real good with all that money, like solving our mental health crisis. The brain is an organ just like the liver or kidneys, and if one had a problem with any other organ they'd seek treatment. But our country judges people who have MI and we can't treat it as effectively as other organs of the body. Then, when you put on top of that, a person who enjoys shooting or hunting, people will want to take your guns away if they know you have issues, it forces many to hide their MI. That just compounds the problems. I'm currently holding guns for a friend whose wife said he had issues. They gave me the guns to hold while things calm down. And they both agreed that I only give back the guns when both of them are satisfied with the treatment he's getting, as well as both of them as a couple, and his adjustment to his new meds. MI is a difficult problem for our entire country, not just our veterans.
The best therapy for someone with a fear is to face it.
I always loved dogs, then I went to a business, and their dog looked at me like it was friendly. I looked away and the dog was on me before I was able to turn back to it. It tore up my arm and did a lot of nerve damage which still gives me problems to this day. I was in the hospital for four days. It wasn't just a dog bite, they couldn't get the dog to release and he tore into the bone as well. I had a lot of problems with all dogs after that for some time. Then I purposely put myself around friends' dogs, even took care of them including giving the dogs pills. It's a weird thing with anxiety and PTSD, it hits you at the most inopportune time. You can be fine around dogs, then something I can't explain hits you and you're around a girlfriend's dog and you freeze up. All over again you see the blood gushing from your arm and just have to get out of there. I've gotta say, it's a good way to change girlfriends.
Others that I love have dealt with anxiety and depression over other things. Even doctors will tell you the meds take at least a month to see if they're even going to work. With my dad, we probably tried a dozen drugs. It ripped my heart out to see him gripped with depression after his heart problems. He went from very outgoing, to rarely going out. Then one day he got up and he was back again. Five years later he was coming home from church, froze, and we had to go get him. He refused to drive after that and was paralyzed with depression, wouldn't go out, for the last 3 years of his life. Otherwise, he was healthy, the doctors said all his other organs were in great shape. The doctors said it was the anxiety and depression that killed him. But he was 89, and if I make it to 89, I want it said that old age was the cause of my death.
We should know much more about mental illness. But the billionaires are too busy trying to go to Mars, than to do some real good with all that money, like solving our mental health crisis. The brain is an organ just like the liver or kidneys, and if one had a problem with any other organ they'd seek treatment. But our country judges people who have MI and we can't treat it as effectively as other organs of the body. Then, when you put on top of that, a person who enjoys shooting or hunting, people will want to take your guns away if they know you have issues, it forces many to hide their MI. That just compounds the problems. I'm currently holding guns for a friend whose wife said he had issues. They gave me the guns to hold while things calm down. And they both agreed that I only give back the guns when both of them are satisfied with the treatment he's getting, as well as both of them as a couple, and his adjustment to his new meds. MI is a difficult problem for our entire country, not just our veterans.
The best therapy for someone with a fear is to face it.
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Here is something similar that happened a couple of months ago. Let me get your thoughts.
My wife and I were getting her retired spouse ID renewed at the Clay Army National Guard Center near Atlanta. It was one of those pandemic arrangements where you wait outside in the parking lot until called. An energetic young man, mid 20’s, walked out of the ID Office and headed to the retro Dodge Challenger parked next to us. I guessed he had waited a long time, so I asked him if he had gotten what he had come for. He grinned and said, “I’m retired.” Then he showed us his new Medical Retiree ID. I was surprised, but I assumed there was some good reason for his medical retirement. He asked me how long I had been in the service, and I told him 22 years. Then, without me asking any further questions, he volunteered the following.
He had served one hitch. During his enlistment, he had witnessed an automobile accident while he was off base and off duty. At the scene of the accident, he had held two of the victims as they died. Undoubtedly a very traumatic situation. When he got to the end of his hitch, he got out of the Army with no disability. Then he started talking to other veterans in the area, and they advised him to go to the VA and see if he couldn’t get enough disability on the basis of PTSD to have a medical retirement; apparently there was a website that provided additional instructions. At the VA, because he had had the trauma at the automobile accident, they identified him as having PTSD and gave him sufficient disability to get a medical retirement. He currently has a job working construction.
The last thing he said to me before he drove off, “With the 22 years you had in the service, I’ll bet there is something they can find where they can give you a medical retirement.”
So, in summary, here are the facts: (1) A young vet (2) medical retirement ID (3) no noticeable disfunction (4) according to the vet, the basis for the retirement was non-service-related PTSD.
My wife and I were getting her retired spouse ID renewed at the Clay Army National Guard Center near Atlanta. It was one of those pandemic arrangements where you wait outside in the parking lot until called. An energetic young man, mid 20’s, walked out of the ID Office and headed to the retro Dodge Challenger parked next to us. I guessed he had waited a long time, so I asked him if he had gotten what he had come for. He grinned and said, “I’m retired.” Then he showed us his new Medical Retiree ID. I was surprised, but I assumed there was some good reason for his medical retirement. He asked me how long I had been in the service, and I told him 22 years. Then, without me asking any further questions, he volunteered the following.
He had served one hitch. During his enlistment, he had witnessed an automobile accident while he was off base and off duty. At the scene of the accident, he had held two of the victims as they died. Undoubtedly a very traumatic situation. When he got to the end of his hitch, he got out of the Army with no disability. Then he started talking to other veterans in the area, and they advised him to go to the VA and see if he couldn’t get enough disability on the basis of PTSD to have a medical retirement; apparently there was a website that provided additional instructions. At the VA, because he had had the trauma at the automobile accident, they identified him as having PTSD and gave him sufficient disability to get a medical retirement. He currently has a job working construction.
The last thing he said to me before he drove off, “With the 22 years you had in the service, I’ll bet there is something they can find where they can give you a medical retirement.”
So, in summary, here are the facts: (1) A young vet (2) medical retirement ID (3) no noticeable disfunction (4) according to the vet, the basis for the retirement was non-service-related PTSD.
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Grimey MF you should be ashamed of yourself for even posting such nonesense!
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You are a disgusting human and I wish you were in AZ so you could hear it in person
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Unfortunately, due to your idiotic viewpoint, you frankly seem unintelligent.
First off, you are a complete POG. If you are unfamiliar, this is an acronym for any individual who’s military occupation was anything other than Combat Arms; I.e. AF LOADMASTER. You first need to begin your logic by understanding the fact that you could never comprehend the day in the life of an Infamtryman, or any combat arms specialist for that matter. As such, you should refrain on commenting on things you clearly have no clue about, such as sharing your opinion on the psychological effects of war.
You have no business questioning an individual’s perception of the experience they had, ESPECIALLY due to the fact that you could never even begin to relate as compared to your military experience.
I suggest you never question anything regarding PTSD again, simply because it makes you look like a fool.
First off, you are a complete POG. If you are unfamiliar, this is an acronym for any individual who’s military occupation was anything other than Combat Arms; I.e. AF LOADMASTER. You first need to begin your logic by understanding the fact that you could never comprehend the day in the life of an Infamtryman, or any combat arms specialist for that matter. As such, you should refrain on commenting on things you clearly have no clue about, such as sharing your opinion on the psychological effects of war.
You have no business questioning an individual’s perception of the experience they had, ESPECIALLY due to the fact that you could never even begin to relate as compared to your military experience.
I suggest you never question anything regarding PTSD again, simply because it makes you look like a fool.
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When my c&p finally got scheduled after two years of VA BS I talked with my psychiatrist she told me to sit down and put my experiences in combat down on paper. It took me almost a week to get it on paper. I thought that was tuff. Then I sat down for two hours trying to get through my c&p. Crying like a bitch with a skinned knee. I was fucked up for two days. When I got my rating I thought is was about right. My doc thought it was a little low but it's not worth going through that BS to try and get a better percentage. I would give up my benefits today to be free of everything my family has to put up with. I find it hard to believe someone could be their way through all the hoops I jumped through but with the constant attention we get I'm sure they will get caught in the end.
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I would like to know what takes the VA so long to say yes or no on an appeal. I appealed my PTSD decision about 3 years ago.
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