Posted on Jul 31, 2020
MSgt B Grimes
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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
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1SG Danny Vorreyer
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After living with the Medical Community I can't comment because I am not certified or licensed either. The person with PTSD, skip these comments, the stigma is over. Get help, keep getting help and be good to yourself and family.
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SSgt Mathew Cummings
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1. DoD is highly increasing MEPS evaluations for in-processing. 2. Not a psychologist, though it would be probably be noted on his exit physical. Meaning he would have had to have been cleared before joining. The Guard unit would possibly launch an investigation for malingering. Highly unlikely though, more than likely just pushed to the door. If it took him 12 years, more than likely had a federal hearing, lied to a Federal judge. 3. Yes he can have a concealed carry, if at the evaluation time he did not claim suicidal or homicidal tendencies. 4. Yes, if a Service Officer helped during the claim and suspected them, they are mandated to report it. I would report it to the Public Contact office at the VBA. They have a channel which will start a re-evaluation of disabilities.
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Cpl Craig Howard
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I have had two times where PTSD was mentioned to me at the VA. One was the Dr. who conducted the C&P Exam. He is of the opinion that all Combat Veterans should be an automatic 10% for PTSD. The second was with a Psychologist I was referred to by mistake, but I went anyways. The Dr. told me that I seemed to be well adjusted, but things change, and I could come back anytime I felt things were going less well. Unfortunately we can't just see who has issue and who needs help easily, and conversely, we can't tell who is faking or had a pre-existing condition. If someone serves with honor, I would hope they also have the character to be truthful in this matter too.
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SPC Paul Missick
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A person can claim all they want, but it requires a medical professional to do the paperwork to even get a claim considered...so a false claim would cost a doctor or psychologist their license...
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PO3 Janet Waters
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You do not need to fired a weapon to get PTSD. And you do not need to serve overseas to get PTSD. There could have been something else that cause his PTSD in the military We should not judge unless we are doctors.
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MSgt Eric Roseberry
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I'd suggest we have no idea. I assisted a ground search following a crashed C130. That impacted me deeply... who knows really.
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Sgt Judy Leonard
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What’s your judgement of me since you find it necessary to probe my profile? Am I real? Do I deserve my rating?
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Sgt Judy Leonard
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I think it’s none of your business and probably not his doctor. Do you deserve your rating?
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Sgt Judy Leonard
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If they joined with a preexisting condition the military can still be at fault for accepting them and elevating the condition. A person doesn’t need to use their weapon or be in combat to suffer PTSD
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Sgt Judy Leonard
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I don’t think your they’re doctor and only a doctor can determine the diagnoses.
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