Posted on Jul 31, 2020
MSgt B Grimes
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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
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SGT K G
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You need educating on PTSD period.

And this is why we still have #22aday.
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Cpl Eric Young
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Look………. Let the VA handle this stuff. It’s not your business to be the VA’s Disability police. Unless they hired you to do it.

I would agree that it is fishy that someone who never saw any combat is receiving 100% disability. But it’s just not my business and it doesn’t affect me if they’re telling the truth or if they are lying.

I’m sure there are people who slip through the cracks and are getting something they don’t deserve…..
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SGT Timothy Posemato
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Well, I have a son in law who entered the military with mental problems and alcoholism, depression, bipolar and schizophrenia, how he got in I don't have the slightest idea, arrested by MPs a few times for drunk and disorderly as well as spouse abuse. Served 15 years, never left stateside, finally separated for being an E4 up to the 15 year mark, upon discharge he was separated 100% due to mental issues, ALL he had prior to enlistment. How does that happen. He even admitted to hearing voices before he enlisted to his VA Psychologist. How does that happen?
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SPC James Cooke
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Within my first year at Fort Riley, a soldier in my company was discharged and received 100% disability for PTSD. Was it from combat? Nope. This soldier never went into combat. Was it rather from pre-service or a conflict during service outside of combat? Maybe. Is it any of my business? Nope.
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Sgt Ivan Boatwright
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PTSD means something. For me, holding and watching a Marine friend die while I was unable to help him in Nam. It means seeing many people die on both sides and later understanding that it was all a wasted effort. Now, I wonder why I killed and why I buried friends and have other friends maimed for life. PTSD is about women raped and the horror they will live with forever. PTSD is the child that saw a veteran commit suicide because they cannot live with their inter-demons. PTSD is many things for many people. None of us are able to judge others and their feelings.
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SSG Ronnie Olivas
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I don't understand so if you have ptsd you can't hunt carry a weapon the wwp puts programs in place to help you by hunting fishing with other combate Vets. I don't know the whole story but some people have it really bad and some have it but I do beleive calling a man a lier is sad look at all the police officers that have it and still working look all the people that lost love one and trying to survive I beleive that with this mentality we are really hurting soldiers that have issues with ptsd because they feel their lives are over I think you need to be in their shoes before you judge and they refuse to get help because they will be judged every step by people who think they know
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I know 3, and all three where non-combat combat action MOS's. All three went to VA about the same time. At a point when VA was telling them they had PTSD 2008-2014. They have done nothing except sit on their butts while 5 time combat Marine MOS types like myself suffer from real illegal years anthrax (serium) cancer and get nothing! It's all a scam, being scammed, perpetuating a scam. Blah, blah, blah! Don't get me wrong, VA gives us cancer treatments, but it's all in hiding the truth. Burn pit victims, coverup for the real much larger cause. Immunity deficiencies caused by 20 years of illegal anthrax vaccines! Hmm, pay for 100k veterans, or pay for millions. If the anthrax vaccine hasn't gotten you yet, stand by!
Cpl Gunner Stout
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This is an old thread, and an even older bltch. I remember sitting in the Senior NCO club one night as a civilian (VSO) guest and listening in the E-8's and above complain about how screwed up their troops were, the shirking, fakery, cowardice, incompetence, on and on, and I can't help but wonder if the good MSgt missed that "superior banter and camaraderie" and sought it here.
The VA does have a legal path for investigation, but Senior 'E's aren't on it for a reason, otherwise they'd be doing nothing but re-investigating every award decision they ever make. For the record 100% dis for PTSD isn't just handed out based on a "good story".
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MSgt Earl King
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I was in Viet Nam, retired in 1987, and had never heard of PTSD. Every 4th of July I would be very stressed, my wife was afraid to go to sleep because she would wake me up because I would stop breathing, and I would get very emotional at times, like driving and just bust out crying. My wife's friend suggested I go to the VSO. That's where my journey started, my military history, and joining the VA system I see a mental health Dr. every 3rd month and take meds. All those years in the Marines I didn't know what was wrong with me. Neither did the Marine Corp.
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SFC Rick Brooks
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I read these posts and what people don't realize is PTSD does not have to be combat related or how many times you were deployed PTSD is a mental situation that you deal with in some way me I joke about everything does it get me in trouble sometimes but it gets me through the hard times I deal with I have been told to file I choose not to and will never give anybody shit over their situation
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