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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
Posted >1 y ago
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SGT Roman Davis
My PTSD is exactly that! I limit my social interactions because my experience and training will come under microscope if I were to 'Kirk-Out' on someone, justified or not.
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Having PTSD from gunfire and having a CCW is not the same. Sounds like a liberal trying yet again. To take away guns. With that being said. I am not a doctor. Neither are you. This young man was evaluated and deemed to have an issue. One does NOT have to serve in combat.
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Let it go. This will n ever be investigated and a conclusion will never be drawn from sny investigation.
Sounds like something personal between you and the veteran. Let it go, in the end he/she will get their due.
Sounds like something personal between you and the veteran. Let it go, in the end he/she will get their due.
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If they falsely claim P T S D they should be charged with a criminal offense. Because the ones with actually P T S D will have a harder time getting there claim approved
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I'm going to stay out of this because the VA rating system is flawed across the board. I have a number of friends who are drawing 95% and 100% disability from the VA, yet they are working as law enforcement officers and pass a strenuous physical test every year. To be 100%, you should be house or bedridden. It's too lax, the system is rife with false or exaggerated claims that are granted so this guy didn't do anything except what thousands (probably millions) of others have done. Please note, this is not addressed to the millions of veterans with valid claims -- they deserve everything they can get.
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Tough one sounds like he worked the system but who am I to say that I don’t know what is in his head
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It appears that his threat to kill comrades if it was one of the justifications for his release from duty might be a YEs answer to BATF Form 4473 question 20c or 20i, prohibiting person from purchasing a firearm. The answer to those questions would be in the details concerning his disability which is priviliged information to us, but FBI/BATF might have legal access.
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Problem is that the VA no longer requires proof that you where actually in any traumatic events overseas. I had a soldier claim PTSD from Kosovo and got it. I also had a soldier on my last trip to Afghanistan claim PTSD when he never even heard a Taliban gun shot. He claimed PTSD with the VA and got a rating. I called the VA and spoke to a few people to let them know he was a fake and never had a traumatic event in Afghanistan which was his only tour. The VA acted like I was the problem not him and one of them told me I was a problem to his recovery. Recovery from what? The VA is partly to blame for so many fake PTSD claims. The bigger problem in my eyes are my brothers and sisters who I know have PTSD but haven't gone for treatment.
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This post is one year old. Most agencies handle these situations by demanding restitution of benefits even if he must pay for the remainder of his life. Sometimes fraud is difficult to prove but money talks hence restitution I would surmise.
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The presumption is that the veteran was fit for duty upon enlistment.
PTSD with homicidal expressions is, indeed, very serious. So are delusions.
If he is truly a threat to himself or others then the proper agencies need to be notified.
His PTSD is not cured. It doesn’t work that way. It may be latent, but something that has been with him at least 12 years doesn’t get cured.
But threats and delusions can be indications of serious problems that may require intensive treatment and very close monitoring.
Bet he didn’t think of that if your suspicions are true.
PTSD with homicidal expressions is, indeed, very serious. So are delusions.
If he is truly a threat to himself or others then the proper agencies need to be notified.
His PTSD is not cured. It doesn’t work that way. It may be latent, but something that has been with him at least 12 years doesn’t get cured.
But threats and delusions can be indications of serious problems that may require intensive treatment and very close monitoring.
Bet he didn’t think of that if your suspicions are true.
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