Posted on Jul 31, 2020
MSgt B Grimes
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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
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Just worry about you bro. You did your time, others did theirs and everyone's experience is different. As far as I'm concerned it's none of my fukin business what other veterans claim on their C&P.
PVT Brian Desormeaux
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Apologies, but I'm not reading all the comments. Literally, 90% of our military members have PTSD. Many don't recognize it...many more do. We all have hyper-vigilance, which is a mild to moderated form of PTSD. Sitting in the back of a restaurant, back to the wall, counting exits, and watching people come and go...PTSD. However, not all PTSD is related to combat. The "T" is trauma(tic). There are plenty of other scenarios that create trauma without ever firing or even holding a weapon. For example: Troop goes through airborne school, gets up in the bird, can't jump and locks the hell up...trauma. Tanker is witness to a fellow soldier getting ran over or smashed by a track vehicle...trauma. A soldier is sexually harassed or sexually assaulted...MALE OR FEMALE...trauma. The bullshit stereotypical "30 yard stare" and "You can't have PTSD...you were never downrange." ...that's out. In this particular scenario the OP lays out, that guy is why it is difficult for so many of to get the resources we need. He's a douchebag and someone that knows him should report his BS to the VA Inspector General. Hell, give me a name..I frickin will!
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SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
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This is partly why getting service connected is a challrnge.
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SSgt Suzanne Kremer
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This post was a few years ago; unfortunately, some seem to fly under the radar regarding benefits. When I entered the military, Women were not allowed in combat roles, and my first deployment was at Ben Giron outside Tele Aviv, Israel during the Gulf War. I don't recall anywhere in the desert where nobody saw combat. I suffered for years on active duty with panic attacks that I was afraid to tell anyone because I would lose out on essential deployments and career-ending. My symptoms kept me alive during my military years. The VA will not diagnose me with PTSD. Nope, not happening. Since I have been a civilian, some ribbons have added devices to them due to congressional appointments and events becoming unclassified. I know there are people on here that have missions that will never be unclassified. My VA doctor constantly sends me to groups so I can have a good relationship with people. I don't think you can get well; PTSD makes a great soldier. It's part of the package.
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James Miller
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I worked at a VA Hospital for a while. We had a patient sent to us pending discharge from the Navy because the hospital was closest to his home. He never finished boot camp because he was yelled at by the DI.he rotated back through 2 more time and after the same issue he was sent to the VA. He accumulate enough time to count and was discharged 100% service connected. He started drawing $809.00 a month tax free.
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SP5 Donna Barr
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People, if EVERYBODY in this country had health care, you'd all have health care. Worrying your head over who gets to be in the club just hurts you. PTSD of course is never "healed." It's why the Marines call it Battle Fatigue and treat any stress injury - including rape and childbirth - the same way. The VA gets away with denying you care because they're counting on vets to help deny other vets. Don't play their little game.
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SPC Steven Nihipali
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I'm ptsd rated, never fired my rifle with the intent to kill... 240/50 on the other hand. Been blown up, mortars, rockets, having to scramble etc...I know what bodies look like, burning vehicles etc
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Forrest Adams
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My best guess would be at least 50% are falsely claiming PTSD and 99% of civilians. Especially women who have never been near the military let alone combat.
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AA Loreen Silvarahawk
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Each Veteran has some type of PTSD. Maybe you do not see combat but you may see the result i.e. seeing every day the unloading of the coffins of the fallen. Each case is different and needs to be thoroughly examined by competent physicians.
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A1C Isa Kocher
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as someone with severe PTSD, i personally find this kind of broadside attack on PTSD disability offensive. the VA does not hand out 100% disability for PTSD like candy at holloween to whoever knocks on the door.

PTSD professionals do not give a diagnosis based solely on private personal patient testimony. lying does not get you there. period. the VA adjudicates to deny. Unless someone is a trained PTSD professional, no one can diagnose PTSD or not. People with PTSD have clear objectively measurable signs and symptoms and the diagnosis is based on specific well spelled out criteria. If a trained professional PTSD clinician gives a diagnosis of PTSD, that is a matter of years trained competence and years of professional experience, not speculation.
1. not everyone who's seen combat has PTSD and there are many reasons why some trauma does become permanent while most does not. 2. many veterans who've never seen combat develop PTSD for many reasons: combat is not the only trauma a person might experience while being trained in the military or serving. accidents, hospitalization, medical malpractice, sexual assault, sexual abuse, head injuries, conditions like cancer, any kind of death threatening situation: 3. a traumatic experience or a series of traumatic experiences take many forms, on base and off, and only a trained clinician can give a medically sound evaluation. traumatic experiences are a matter of record. other service people and civilians witness them. 4. there is a well developed science of trauma codified in VA, in DSM5, and in international standards of trauma and PTSD. those cannot be faked. if it is in the records it happened. 5. most people with PTSD are absolutely no threat to anyone and a diagnosis of PTSD is irrelevant to owning and using arms, cars, machinery, kitchen equipment or watching tv. that is an egregious mischaracterization of PTSD. an offensive mischaracterization of every person who has served and been diagnosed with PTSD: people with PTSD are no more a threat to others than any other illness.

About 90% of VA denials of PTSD that go to court are returned to the VA for re-evaluation because the VA denials are so strict they break usa law to deny. the VA aggressively, proactively denies PTSD and only trained qualified experienced PTSD clinicians have any business diagnosing anyone
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