Posted on Jul 31, 2020
MSgt B Grimes
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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
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SPC Fire Support Specialist
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PTSD can come from anywhere.
My spouse served in a combat zone and freaks out when guns go off unpredictably or at random. But if he himself is hunting or at the range expecting loud noise he is fine.

It sounds like this guy has another mental issue going on, or is a liar yeah but what does it really matter
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SP5 Sandra Dockeney
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That person lied and VA should do blood work to see if any of the meds are even in their system.
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MSgt Allen Chandler
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I want to tell all of you Monday morning quarterbacks, and armed armchair doctors, to get off your high horse and stop claiming that you know something that the experts do not.
I have PTSD. It is much worse than some other people I know who have PTSD. It is not nearly as bad as some people I know who have PTSD.
What happened to me that caused me to have PTSD, is none of your damn business. If I am that good a con artist that I fool all the doctors, and all the experts, and jump through all the hoops at the VA, what makes you think that you are so smart that you can decide whether I am a faker?
I had a very dear friend, he served in the Marine Corps for four years. He never left the continental United States. He had PTSD bad. My understanding after the fact is this. He was stationed in Southern California as a clerk processing Marines to go to Vietnam. He did the paperwork that sent thousands of Marines over there, and many of those Marines did not come home. And he felt it was his fault. Whether or not you think it was his fault is not the point. It weighed on him so much that 40 years later he committed suicide because he could not stand the guilt. He died by suicide, because of his military service. The military, the Veterans Administration, and all the doctors that were involved tried to do a good job, as best I understand the situation. But he died anyway.
You do not know what is in another person’s mind. And I think it is damn arrogant of you to sit back in your house drinking your beer and tell somebody else that they are not sick.
PTSD is a range, a very large category of problems. From being raped, to seeing your buddy die. The men assigned to the casually center in New Jersey that receive all the bodies back have lots of problems because of what they have seen. And for your arrogant SOB to say suck it up, or that they are faking is an insult to every veteran in the world.
I was not a Green Beret. I was not a Navy seal. I was not a Ranger. I was in a fighter pilot. I did not get the Congressional medal of honor. I am a veteran. And if you think you know me. You are an idiot.
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SN Mike Duffy
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I got PTSD from my stepdad and a few ex wives. I ain't even gonna try to blame the navy.
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LCpl Pat Fierro
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Edited 4 mo ago
The benefit of the doubt goes to the veteran. As long as they are "at least as likely as not" (meaning there is a 50/50 chance) to have incurred PTSD while on duty, that is it. This is the VA policy, we live by it and we must accept it. That's just the way it is.
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1SG Rick Seekman
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Lot of what ifs here.
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SGT Robert Hise-Denk
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Worry less about preventing people from getting things they’re not entitled to. Worry more about making sure folks get what they deserve.
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CPL John Bross
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Seems to me if he was relieved of service duties he should not receive any benefits / if he has claimed ptsd he should most certainly not be allowed to own a fire arm as I know veterans who truely have ptsd and they cannot .
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SPC Peter Suedfeld
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The claim that every combat veteran suffers from PTSD is contrary to the data. The research is also clear that for most patients PTSD is not necessarily life-long, that it can be successfully treated, and that many people who has been professionally diagnosed as having PTSD can nevertheless live a mostly normal life.
It is unethical for mental health professionals to comment on the condition of someone whom they have not personally examined, or to comment on individuals outside their own specialty. I am not a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist, although I am a psychologist who has studied the issue of PTSD and resilience. I cannot legitimately answer any of the questions at the end of the "basic info."
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LTC Alea Morningstar
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My answer disappeared because I typed it before signing in? weird.
THERE IS RAMPANT FRAUD. I was at Walter Reed a year after wounded in Iraq. 2 more at TAMC at home before med retirement. I was wounded and lost my medical career but I CAN tell you that 1:5 approx were REAL--the others were faking it to get MONEY disability. It was so outrageous I tried to intervene and became a patient advocate when ambulatory because I'm a doc. But the TRUE PTSD were severely wounded or saw many deaths. The AVERAGE guy who rarely went outside the wire were FAKING IT. There were several sexual assaults there who were genuine and one I know was not as she told me the truth. HUMAN NATURE, as in FREE MONEY, unfortunately has reigned in the Iraq/Afghan vets I see. Lawyers who take 50% are rampant but somehow they get the ratings done. I find it a sad reflection of our times. and those who TRULY have PTSD have a difficult time because there are so many whiners/fakers. Group therapy was 'my trauma is bigger than yours'...and the stories were stolen from other soldiers/marines (one I knew personally...) SAD state of affairs but it is somehow the world we live in today. Gotta deal with it and if you are a real PTSD then don't let them get YOU down.
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