Posted on Jul 31, 2020
MSgt B Grimes
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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
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CPL LeChonne Wright
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You soundsile a fake friend. Gathering information solely for the purpose of exposing near PII information. PTSD from service doesn't always.come feom combat. You appear to be doing more harm than good.
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CPL Animosh Lost
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PTSD doesn't just come from battle. The waiting and building up for something bad to happen is extremely stressful. It is red lining your car a never letting it shift to the right gear. Those who have been in combat, well they got to shift gears and let that engine idle low again. Those who haven't been in combat never get that chance so they come home with PTSD that is even worse because they never had the chance to dump that adrenaline.
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SP5 John Hien
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A veteran can claim PTSD, but the diagnosis will be done by VA psychiatrists and psychologists. They will listen very intensely to what a veteran says. Was the veteran in a combat zone? Was the veteran wounded? What’s on the veterans DD-214? What symptoms does the veteran display? While a veteran can fake PTSD symptoms, I would like to think a fake claim will eventually be found out. Once determined the veteran is lying to claim benefits, that veteran may have to re-pay all the money received as a PTSD benefit. A good book to read about false claims, false heroic actions, and false military service, is Stolen Valor by E. G. Burkett.
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SN Kristi Kalis
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There are a lot of people, in the military or civilian, who falsely claim disabilities. Those who are actually disabled get nothing after jumping through hoops for years. Military Sexual Trauma, for example, is not a compensable condition as it relates to PTSD. Rapists almost never face repercussions, while the victims almost always are disciplined or discharged if they don't opt out. Justice is a joke. Additionally, once a person gets disability, there is no follow-up in civilian or military cases.
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COL John Hudson
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Edited >1 y ago
FROM THE IG DESK: Be aware I served as Inspector General for both the 1st Cav. Division as well as 63rd Regional Readiness Command. "Thoughts" or "Opinions" in a public forum won't fix these problems. In reference to this specific issue: "Falsely claiming PTSD for VA benefits" - If you have specific and truthful knowledge (or strongly suspect such) of "Fraud, Waste, and Abuse," the proper channels for addressing this matter are as follows:
""If you suspect fraud, waste, or abuse impacting Veterans or VA programs or if you think there might be an issue with a VHA healthcare claim or bill, a service you received, or VA community care or other healthcare provider please contact the VHA Integrity and Compliance Helpline.
Toll-free phone: [login to see] (VHA-HELP) 24 hours/7 days a week
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Mailing Address:
ATTN: Integrity and Compliance Helpline (10OIC)
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Washington DC 20420 ""
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SPC Daniel Dresen
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This sounds more like a dissociative disorder than ptsd so one could argue a preexisting condition before even enlisting in the army but service likely exacerbated it so he'd still be eligible for compensation if he was previously undiagnosed.
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CWO4 Miles Weaver
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Falsely claiming anything for VA benefits is fraud, plain and simple.
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SFC Joe Vega
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You obviously don’t know a Damn thing about PTSD if you think people are defrauding the government! If they are then let the government deal with them. I don’t think it’s your job. You must be a Trumpster!
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SGT Daniel Myers
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Frankly, I do have the credentials and the people at the VA scare me. They can be unprofessional at times, don't like anyone whose on equal footing with them disagreeing with their assessment or the next thing you know, you're combative, argumentative, and disruptive. I've been a counselor going on 18 years and I want people to feel at ease when they talk to me. These are soldiers, not angels, sometimes they may swear during a session. If you do at the VA, you get reported to the Disruptive Behavior Committee and all those hearings are behind your back without your knowledge and your file flagged. This can get very serious as the VA counselors have too much power, some even thinking they're gods. Every state's congressional office gets flooded with complaints from veterans about the mental health care, or lack thereof, they receive from the VA.
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Sgt Ron Bowen
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Have had lots of experience with this during my 30 year career as a VA social worker.
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