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I see someone waving the American Flag as comforting. The shirt in combination is intended to incite feelings in people to whatever ends they may be.
Islam is not the problem. Radicals, however, are a problem. And every religious and political affiliation has them.
If people are so concerned, why aren't more people flying flags and showing their support for America?
Islam is not the problem. Radicals, however, are a problem. And every religious and political affiliation has them.
If people are so concerned, why aren't more people flying flags and showing their support for America?
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It is indeed freedom of speech and it is also indeed inflammatory. That being said it is not illegal unless his speech or actions are directed to inciting, and is likely to incite, imminent lawless action. My feelings are that if someone can burn flags, curse police in their face and expect no reciprocation, spit on soldiers in the airport returning from war and praise the violent actions of a person in the name of whatever religion it is that they worship here in the United States, then this guy can do what he is doing. You have a choice to ignore it if you don't like it.
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Gasoline on fire, IMO. It's his right, yes...but things like this are sometimes simply meant to anger others, vice expressing free speech. If that's the intent, I would have to say that we are bigger than that. Why stoop to their level?
All that said, as SSG (Join to see) stated, I'd honk in support if I saw him while driving by! Is that right? I don't know, but I certainly agree with his stated views.
All that said, as SSG (Join to see) stated, I'd honk in support if I saw him while driving by! Is that right? I don't know, but I certainly agree with his stated views.
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You take your chances and I would never do it. But that said, it is heartwarming and it does something to the cockles of my pacemaker. lol. Ok. I have no pacemaker and not sure of the heart either...
PO2 Ed C.
PO2 Ed C.
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LTC Stephen C.
SSgt (Join to see), based on previous posts, we can safely assume no heart, as well! :)
PO2 Ed C.
PO2 Ed C.
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I see this as no different than what Westboro or any other group says. But people want to talk crap because it says Islam on it. Who cares? Let him say his piece. Just like we do with everyone else. It's Freedom of Speech. We as a nation and as a military forget that our freedom of speech was meant to be protect things like this. Not just the nice stuff. If you can't understand that then why did you take the Oath? And why are you living in the U.S. ? I'm not saying this to tread on anyone else opinion, as this is mine. And as such it's protected by the same Amendment that protects this guy.
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I'll put it this way... Freedom of Speech does not mean Freedom from Consequence of that Speech. Some will be for some will be against, but all should respect. Now that the PC answer was given....
I have no issues with this
I have no issues with this
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He has the right to do this but why? Does this really solve anything. Is this going to reflect well on him or anyone else. We all live in a community. If we intentionally put up walls and alienate some what do we think is going to happen? Does he think he is really helping anything? If it said to F--- Terrorists then I wouldn't have an issue but I think he is doing harm than good.
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SPC Dennis Yaste
I can't argue with that logic, LT. Agreed. I have known many good Muslims whom were no danger of becoming radical.
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God bless this man. He is in every right to do this. So what if people are giving him flack, just means he is doing it right.
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I find it disturbing that the media and everyone else is focusing on the judgement of Pamela Geller instead of the two men that brought AK's with intent on killing people. I think she made a good point by saying Christians don't like when Jesus Christ is depicted in a distasteful way but they dont go out and kill or attempt to kill the one's responsible. Yes it may have been inflammatory, but It goes to show that Islam is incompatible with the US constitution. I dont want anyone to loose their mind. This is just my opinion.
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MSgt James Mullis
You bring up a good point and I'll match it with a possibly inflammatory opinion of my own. The press and others would like us to believe that there are other religions out there silently supporting terrorism. But it's just not true! When was the last time you heard about evil Lutheran or Methodist gunmen shouting "Amen" or "God Bless You", while shooting up a Mosque or Temple? If the excuse for these Islamic terrorism is supposed to be religious oppression or a lack of consideration for their beliefs, then shouldn't we expect to hear about Catholic terrorist bombings in Saudi Arabia any day now. Because, as we all know, the country forbids celebrating mass in spite of its sizable resident Catholic population (i.e. Filipino maids and nannies). It could even be said that the Kingdom is forcing much of its resident Catholic population to live in a state of sin. For some reason, you just don't hear the press complaining about the lack of respect or sensitivity for their religious freedoms.
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SGT(P) (Join to see)
I understand that there are peaceful law abiding muslims but that's not the issue. With an estimated 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, the percentage of the "radical" ones varies from 5% to 25% from what I have been able to find. Even at 5% that's a hell of a lot of people that want to force their views and kill.
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He is alone on the street but not alone in his belief and therein lies the issue.
Like every other religion, Islam does not come in one flavor.
Should all of Christianity be judged by the actions of the members of the Westboro Baptist Chruch?
Thus, I suppose, the individual right to Freedom of Speech applies, but ultimately everyone must take responsibility for the manner in which they wield that sword as individuals.
Like every other religion, Islam does not come in one flavor.
Should all of Christianity be judged by the actions of the members of the Westboro Baptist Chruch?
Thus, I suppose, the individual right to Freedom of Speech applies, but ultimately everyone must take responsibility for the manner in which they wield that sword as individuals.
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CPT Jack Durish I like that you pointed out that if all Christianity was judge on the actions of the WBC, Christians would not look very good. It is the same in every religion. Man tends to only want to see the words in each other at times, which is why so many want to believe that everyone who is Islam is "bad".
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