Posted on Aug 17, 2015
Going from Officer to Enlisted in forced retirement
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The retirement letter sent to Officers who are a non-select for promotion has an option to resign commision and go enlisted.
Have you ever seen it happen? Thoughts?
"I am a Regular Army Officer and desire to resign my commission to enlist in the Active Army. I understand that I must be separated prior to enlistment to qualify. I also understand that I must submit a resignation IAW AR 600-8-24, paragraph 3-7, to [login to see] , as soon as possible. Failure to submit a resignation prior to separation will result in discharge."
Have you ever seen it happen? Thoughts?
"I am a Regular Army Officer and desire to resign my commission to enlist in the Active Army. I understand that I must be separated prior to enlistment to qualify. I also understand that I must submit a resignation IAW AR 600-8-24, paragraph 3-7, to [login to see] , as soon as possible. Failure to submit a resignation prior to separation will result in discharge."
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I've never heard of that. I've heard of selective transfer to Warrant positions, where an O-4 would basically have an option to become a CW-3, but even then it was people who were likely to be passed over, not people who already had been.
If you pursue a commission and fail to meet the requirements, you can be required to fulfill your duty obligation via enlisted status (contracted Cadets/Midshipmen technically sign an enlistment contract with the ROTC or academy rider attached). Even then, that's usually only if they owe money, such as an ROTC scholarship, and elect not to pay it back. I don't think you go in as E-1, though.
I did know one person who was Commissioned an O-1 via the Early Commissioning Program who then lost her commission, and was threatened with Enlisted time. The program commissions you with an Associate's and you are given 3 years (waiverable to 4) to finish up a Bachelor's, and you also must maintain a certain GPA. She failed two semesters in a row, and also chose to pay back the scholarship rather than become an E-5 (the rank she said they'd told her).
If you pursue a commission and fail to meet the requirements, you can be required to fulfill your duty obligation via enlisted status (contracted Cadets/Midshipmen technically sign an enlistment contract with the ROTC or academy rider attached). Even then, that's usually only if they owe money, such as an ROTC scholarship, and elect not to pay it back. I don't think you go in as E-1, though.
I did know one person who was Commissioned an O-1 via the Early Commissioning Program who then lost her commission, and was threatened with Enlisted time. The program commissions you with an Associate's and you are given 3 years (waiverable to 4) to finish up a Bachelor's, and you also must maintain a certain GPA. She failed two semesters in a row, and also chose to pay back the scholarship rather than become an E-5 (the rank she said they'd told her).
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MAJ Jim Steven
yes. its an email from HRC, addressed to each officer - then an attached PDF to be filled out and returned.
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I did and have been fighting Retirement Services, HRC, ABCMR for 12 retirement years. If you are interested call me at [login to see] . I have a phone-in scheduled with the Director of ABCMR on 01 Aug 2023 as to why this is taking so long. The ABCMR ruled in my favor Dec 2021 and still no relief.
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I did and 12 year in retirement, 3 boards of correction.
I got my rank back. This was in Dec 2021 an still have not been paid. The new specious reasoning reasoning is G-1 and the board have to review my case. Really? WTF?
If you want to know the retirement he'll ahead because of incompetence at RSO, HRC, and G-1, call me [login to see] . And I WON MY BOARD CASE 21 MONTHS AGO.
I got my rank back. This was in Dec 2021 an still have not been paid. The new specious reasoning reasoning is G-1 and the board have to review my case. Really? WTF?
If you want to know the retirement he'll ahead because of incompetence at RSO, HRC, and G-1, call me [login to see] . And I WON MY BOARD CASE 21 MONTHS AGO.
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Start an HRC IG complaint. It took me 3 boards of correction. I should not have had to go to one. Stay tuned for future updates. 18 months after 3rd board and still waiting on back pay.
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After 3 boards of correction, my position was always the same, they finally agreed. Then, instead of aging me my back pay, returning the garnishment, and interest on withheld funds, G1 and The Board must review before payment. Really WTF?
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Major Steven,
I just completed my 3rd board of correction and was finally retired as a captain. Awarded back pay to my retirement date of 01Mar2012. My military career story was the same for all 3 boards. I guess someone finally read my packet and saw the error of the Entire Army Retirement Services Command. I will send you the info if you are interested. They need to stop demoting, devaluing, and materially disadvantaging soldiers in retirement who qualify for an officer retirement. If you held your commission for 10 years you will retire as an officer period.
You will be placed on the retired list in your highest rank satisfactorily held.
V/r,
Dave McDonald
I just completed my 3rd board of correction and was finally retired as a captain. Awarded back pay to my retirement date of 01Mar2012. My military career story was the same for all 3 boards. I guess someone finally read my packet and saw the error of the Entire Army Retirement Services Command. I will send you the info if you are interested. They need to stop demoting, devaluing, and materially disadvantaging soldiers in retirement who qualify for an officer retirement. If you held your commission for 10 years you will retire as an officer period.
You will be placed on the retired list in your highest rank satisfactorily held.
V/r,
Dave McDonald
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Just received my 3rd board results. My Career for all three boards was the same. Finally I was awarded all back pay, 4 more years of service, garnishment went away and DFAS must return all garnished retirement. 10 years of retirement wasted on Army Retirement Services.
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