Posted on Jan 25, 2015
Good call or bad call? Cop shoots man with gun.
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RAW VIDEO: Muskogee officer-involved shooting
++This is graphic video++ Muskogee, Oklahoma - January 17, 2015 Police are called to a wedding because a man, Terrence Walker, originally from the Houston ar...
Notice two points: 1:15 the man stops running and pulls the gun, and 6:33 the cop collapses after killing the man. What are your thoughts? Good call or bad call?
(Background info from the original YouTube poster: Muskogee, Oklahoma - January 17, 2015: Police are called to a wedding because a man, Terrence Walker, originally from the Houston area, had allegedly threatened to kill a woman. The arriving officer is tense not knowing what he would encounter or what to expect)
http://youtu.be/34VEjO-Wi0s
(Background info from the original YouTube poster: Muskogee, Oklahoma - January 17, 2015: Police are called to a wedding because a man, Terrence Walker, originally from the Houston area, had allegedly threatened to kill a woman. The arriving officer is tense not knowing what he would encounter or what to expect)
http://youtu.be/34VEjO-Wi0s
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 13
We (four current police officers) watched this the other day after work.
From a purely tactical point of view, I was impressed with the officer's composure. He is professional in is approach to the suspect, and he escalates only in response to the suspect actions. Once the confrontation is over, he is able to quickly and with detail articulate the circumstances to other responding officers.
From the side of me who studies human behavior, I was struck by the idiot stopping his car and running into this mess as the shooting had just taken place. He immediately starts telling the officer not to shoot the suspect. The lack of just good old fashion common sense demonstrated here is appalling. What person in their right mind absent some very focused professional training stops in the middle of a gun fight to tell the people shooting to stop??.....much less the officer who is engaged in taking down a bad guy??? Does this idiot not realize that he not only now introduced himself into a situation where the officer - already under a significant amount of stress - must evaluate another person's intent and determine if that person is an additional threat or not; he also potentially exposed himself to actions of the suspect who clearly doesn't have anybody else's best interest in mind? You have to wonder what happens if the suspect isn't disabled and re-emerges as a threat....does the motorist understand that he might have been shot by somebody he was trying protect....so stupid!! And then the headline would have been "Lazy Cop Allows Motorist to be Killed by Known Felon"
And finally, without knowing anything about anything, the rabble comes out screaming that the suspect didn't have a gun.....where's Al Sharpton when you need him?
From somebody who as lived a lifetime in this environment, it really does happen that fast every time. I've been fortunate that to date everybody on the other end has had the good sense to put the gun down, or to run off; but I have friends who have both been shot, and likewise shot other people. If the public understood how difficult this really is, maybe we (L/E personnel) could catch a break from the media.....
From a purely tactical point of view, I was impressed with the officer's composure. He is professional in is approach to the suspect, and he escalates only in response to the suspect actions. Once the confrontation is over, he is able to quickly and with detail articulate the circumstances to other responding officers.
From the side of me who studies human behavior, I was struck by the idiot stopping his car and running into this mess as the shooting had just taken place. He immediately starts telling the officer not to shoot the suspect. The lack of just good old fashion common sense demonstrated here is appalling. What person in their right mind absent some very focused professional training stops in the middle of a gun fight to tell the people shooting to stop??.....much less the officer who is engaged in taking down a bad guy??? Does this idiot not realize that he not only now introduced himself into a situation where the officer - already under a significant amount of stress - must evaluate another person's intent and determine if that person is an additional threat or not; he also potentially exposed himself to actions of the suspect who clearly doesn't have anybody else's best interest in mind? You have to wonder what happens if the suspect isn't disabled and re-emerges as a threat....does the motorist understand that he might have been shot by somebody he was trying protect....so stupid!! And then the headline would have been "Lazy Cop Allows Motorist to be Killed by Known Felon"
And finally, without knowing anything about anything, the rabble comes out screaming that the suspect didn't have a gun.....where's Al Sharpton when you need him?
From somebody who as lived a lifetime in this environment, it really does happen that fast every time. I've been fortunate that to date everybody on the other end has had the good sense to put the gun down, or to run off; but I have friends who have both been shot, and likewise shot other people. If the public understood how difficult this really is, maybe we (L/E personnel) could catch a break from the media.....
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Not my call, good or bad. Put yourself in the shoes of the man and then the cop. Proverbs 1: 1 to 33 or our favorite St. Matthew 7: 1 to 29. Let the Church say: Amen!
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