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This is purely for my curiosity. I know since this is a military site, most people on here are against strict gun control, but I am interested in hearing the thoughts of other service members on this subject.<div><br></div><div>So if you would please,</div><div>State if you are FOR or AGAINST gun control,</div><div>why you think we should or should not have stricter gun law,</div><div>and any other thoughts concerning the topic.</div><div><br></div><div>(this is not to start an argument or anything as it surely has the ability to. I just want to see an honest debate and/or collaboration of ideas on the matter)</div>
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I believe in simple gun regulations like age requirements, background checks, etc. I also believe in issuing concealed carry permits to those who meet the age and have no criminal record but shouldn't have to demonstrate a need like in some states (i.e. New York, Maryland). One reason for that is because of how biased the issuer (usually the county sheriff) can be when giving them out; he won't give one to that widowed grandmother, but he WILL give one to that wealthy political donor who lives in a gated community and probably donated to his campaign for office that gives him the authority to grand them.

One of the more prominent arguments gun-grabbers make is comparing crime statistics of America to foreign countries. They may point out England and Australia with strict gun laws though not as strict as Mexico, with their much lower gun crime rates. What they don't point out is that gun crime has ALWAYS been low there, even long before they passed such strict laws; they only erupted after public outcry from massacres such as Port Arthur, Dunblane, etc. Furthermore, they don't point out countries like Mexico, Brazil, and Russia which have much higher homicide rates than America despite having even far stricter gun laws. The gun grabbers act as if guns are the only way to commit murder; look at massacres like Oklahoma City and 9/11; the death tolls there were much higher than places like Virginia Tech or Fort Hood, yet not a single shot was fired there.
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We may disagree, SN (Join to see) , but you get an upvote for a reasonable argument. "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire
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MAJ Derrick J.
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Responsible citizens don't need "gun control laws." We self regulate and don't need some one looking our shoulder - it's the skewed broken individual who needs to be restrained and controlled by heavy handed laws that will punish major infractions very harshly and consistently. Guns are our last defense against oppression & totalitarian rule.
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SSG Oliver Mathews
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My thoughts are simple...

(I have noticed that many people have said things better than i can, so i am just borrowing what they said and how they said it. Hence the picture i have posted)
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SFC Lamont Womack
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I disagree with the question. Why do I have to be for or against gun control? There have been proposals about gun control I agree with and some proposals I don't agree with. I think these "all or nothing" questions hurt the country make progress on any issue. Every single issue has to be left or right, up or down, black or white.  Now if you asked about a specific gun control proposal I could give you a specific answer. I don't agree with the yes or no options.   
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SSG Ed Mikus
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AGAINST controlling the arms, but i believe we need stricter licensing of firearm owners and it to be the same across the nation. 
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PO1 James Friedman
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The 2nd Amendment is the only License required. All gun control laws on the books are all UNconstitutional.
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SSG Cryptologic Linguist
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I'm FOR stricter background checks and harsher punishments for gun law violators, but I'm AGAINST outlawing assault rifles and making citizens register their weapons. I think harsh punishments for law violators would have a greater impact on those that have firearms illegally, while not really affecting those of us who own them legally.
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SrA Zachary Bolling
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I think just saying FOR or AGAINST is too black and white. I don't agree with taking guns away or making it impossible for someone to protect themselves. I also don't agree that ANYONE can go and buy ANY gun on the shelves.


This is a thought that just crossed my mind and maybe it sounds silly but tell me what you think.  Instead of making certain guns illegal why doesn't the Government implement a license class system. Which means that gun licenses would be like drivers license.


Driver's licenses are issued and gained by completing different levels of knowledge and experience. Just like I can't go and start driving a Big Rig because I think they look cool and I have money to blow. The average person would have to go through specialized training to earn a license that permits them to buy a higher class of weapon.


Within this license class there would be a background check involved and proof of how these weapons are stored. I don't think there should be a limit on how many licenses should be issued. But this could be a way to ensure that only the responsible people are in possession of the more advanced weapon systems.


I know that a lot of people might be against having a data base with information like addresses and what guns they have but I think there could be a way to secure that information.


Also, I believe that there should be an evaluation on medical health to get one of these licenses. As time goes on it seems like these mass shootings are the cause of irresponsibility and mental health problems rather than somebody JUST with the intent to massacre.


I'm sure there would be flaws in this type of system but I would rather compromise with the government than go to war with it.


my 2 cents

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SrA Zachary Bolling
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Just to be clear. This is not how I feel it should be handled but I think this could be a good alternative. I AM VERY PRO GUN!!!
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SPC Donald Moore
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The problem with that is that driving is not a right, keeping and bearing arms is a right that shall not be infringed. Having to get a license first is an infringement as are several of the existing laws which should be eliminated.
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SSG Laureano Pabon
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Edited 12 y ago

PFC R.

I thought I put this here for you and others to see.  lol


http://wtfleak.com/this-is-what-happens-when-you-give-a-gun-to-a-monkey/




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CPT Platoon Leader
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thats hilarious! probably fake, but hilarious
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SSG Laureano Pabon
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lol, I don't know if its fake, but I sure laughed my butt off when I saw it  lol. I thought I share it as a sense of humor.
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SSG Laureano Pabon
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lol Yeah I know, if you look at it carefully you see the ground spitting dirt, that can only mean one thing the AK-47 had live ammo lol
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1SG First Sergeant
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It's fake, it was actually an advertisement for one of the newer Planet of the Apes movies, hence the "20th Century Fox" in the bottom left corner of the vid.
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SSG Laureano Pabon
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I'm not against gun control until things like this happen.

These weapons fall in the wrong hands and its the innocent little ones that pay the price.

This is one topic of many, even here in NYC we had a child killed on a dry run by some moron(s). I can not image what these parents must have thought, much worse me a father myself.


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/12/children-guns-home-investigation-newtown

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SSG Noah Grove
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so the six Nations that prohibit private ownership have less gun crime? I However, don't think ownership should be illegal, (I own three rifles, two handguns and a shotgun), but I also don't think they should be as deregulated as they are.  We seriously have an issue in this country with the wrong people getting their hands on guns. I don't know what the solution should be, but we need some sort of standards and requirements.  
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SPC Sven Pacot
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It doesn't matter how many regulations you impose on weapons, they will either still obtain them through the black market or find other ways to kill people. Laws keep honest men honest. There is no keeping them out of the wrong hands.<br>
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If guns weren't in stores
SPC Pacot, well said. Kind of like this?
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MSG(P) Michael Warrick
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Great point !
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