Has anybody successfully submitted an appeal against a falsified NCOER?

I'm reading this NCOER and I'm thinking, first of all, who the hell wrote this garbage? There were only 2 bullets half the time and most if not all were very vague. If I ever even thought about writing an NCOER like this, it wouldn't make it past the first-line supervisor's desk before it got kicked back to me. Second, there were points about the NCO being disrespectful and leaving a weapon unsecured, among others. If I were handling the appeal, I'd ask to see any and all paperwork written beforehand for said infractions. Also, I'd want to see all quarterly counselings. Lack thereof should set off alarm bells if you ask me.

To say I'm floored by what I just read would be a gross understatement. I've written some rough but deserved NCOERs in my time but even then, they carried the weight of truth. That one looks like it was written on the way to S-1 for final processing. If you're looking to put a substandard NCOER to paper... Qualify and Quantify, the same as you would a 1/1, Among the Best. "I will be fair and impartial..."

In my honest opinion, regardless if its a 4/4 rating or a 1/1 rating... that NCOER looks like my six year old daughter wrote it.

Another thing, the values don't match the comments on the other side....IF he was THAT BAD you'd think he would have a NO in there somewhere

What is the grade of this individual? Apparently they did not read the block to the left of their signature. The last portion says if they are in disagreement that they are aware of the appeal process in AR 623-3. Now, I can take this one all the way down the rabbit hole, but your friend needed to have read the NCOER. The other thing is that, they should have known when their counseling dates were and reminded their supervisor, that they were due for a counseling. I have been out for a minute, but I do not think that has changed. So, they cannot lay this all on the supervisor since they are an NCO and should have known better. I know this may sound hard, but their signature on the NCOER says that they knew as it is stated right on it that they know the appeal process.

This may be after the fact, but in their unit the 1SG & CSM should have inspections to ensure that the counselings are happening when they are supposed to. I call this taking care of your soldiers. There should be NCOPD held where this is a topic and reinforced on a regular basis.

Not saying this is the case, but normally when an NCO knows they are not doing well, they are not going after their quarterly counseling, nor or they asking for it. They know that by regulation once the NCOER form is submitted the counselings are not required to be held, but if it was negative, I would think that a good CSM would have asked to see the performance counselings with the NCOER to see if they supported the negatives as well as to see if there were improvements or not.

Now, if we have a negative, then the rater should be showing the rated person what they need to do to improve. They should be prepared to spend time to bring that individual up to speed. Evaluate is one thing, showing how to improve, taking time to ensure that the rater is there to mentor and give the additional training as need to ensure that NCO is performing to standards.

I retired in 1997. so I may be a little out there, but I cannot imagine things have changed that much!

evals are important. bad soldiers often spend a great deal of effort trying to fix what they truly earned. Spend that time doing good at your job instead. future ratings and promotions will depend on it.

Team,
There is a lot of things not present here. I am like Paul Harvey and I am not sure we have the rest of the story. As a result of a lost weapon, usually there is a Field Grade Article 15 that the service member received. If that is the case then there should be support for needs improvement, not to mention Army Values should also be reflected with a NO in at least one area. Do you have a copy of the counselings, and more important the DA Form 2166-8-1? Depending on the age of this NCOER, the rating chain might be long gone.

Have the NCO go to the HRC appeals site. Ensure they have all documentation regarding the situation. I'm not understanding counseling dates and tying them to rehabilitation. Without knowing the situation, I surmise that the rating is a result of the counseling -- The next rating period is the time for the NCO to put up or shut up.

That said, the NCOs 1SG and or CSM will have the latest greatest information on the appeals process. It does work when warranted.

Good Luck

Yes it is possible to appeal a NCOER. If you can prove there is false information then go through the steps to appeal.

If the counseling dates were falsified don't sign it. That is one of the items the rated NCOs signature is verifying.

Honestly don't worry about that one NCOER. When the promotion board sees there is only one that is completely different,they will mostly disregard it. I had one that had a success, no bullets and said do not promote. It also had 4/4 blocks checked. It was 100%different from all other NCOER "s that I had. I made E-7 on my first look. You just have to make sure that this is the only one you have like this. If you want to fight it you will have to end up with the first CSM in your chain of command. They one who wrote it will have to show counseling statement to uphold the NCOER.