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SP5 Kenneth Smith
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While stationed with 22nd FASCOM, Ft. Lee, VA, I got into a "discussion" with a WWII era MSG E-7. This unit conducted LOGEX training for reserves performing summer service. The unit was more of a holding company for senior service personnel that would soon be retiring or otherwise leaving service, e.g. when I f for first got there the Finance Officer, was a Reserve Officer 02 with less than one year of AD. The TO&E for that position called for an 06. I don't remember what the MSG told me to do, but I refused to do it, and one of the other senior sergeants said "Sarge's the one wearing the stripes", and I responded, "So do zebras". It wasn't long after that I got my orders for RVN.
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CPT Earl George
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Germany 1974-75. The brigade Commander monitored the MP blotter daily. He would write comments like Action Taken to certain Battalion Commanders on specific blotter incidents. AS the assistant Brigade S-1, i would make ca copy of that particular incident and send it to that particular battalion with a 7 day Suspense date for an answer. We had one particular battalion Commander who always lagged in getting responses in on time. One day, he had not replied on a particular case. I was told to go to his office and get an answer immediately. I went to his office, went in and reported and told him of my request. Within 5 seconds, he told me to get the the F___K out of his office. I went back to my boss(Bde S-1) a major and told him what had happened. The next morning, at 7am, that particular Battalion Commander was standing in front of my desk with the reply and also asking me if he had any other reports due. He continued this every morning for three weeks till his unit was caught up.
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SPC Matt Ovaska
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SSG Harry Herres
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Nope told them they were wrong, showed them the right procedure then advised them its your call, the right way or wrong way. Never got in yelling match but paid for being right. 3 month humping the bush with a 40lb ground surveillance radar on my back with a bunch of grunts who only liked me because I protected their butts at night! Got a new OIC , out of the bush then he let me run my section and we produced. He got promoted early and even thanked me! Made it home alive, still am and can only say. Stay safe stay strong VETs never forget!
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1SG Arthur Kristiansen
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I don’t remember ever having to resort to screaming at anyone in my 21 years in the army. Provided the situation wasn’t critical, everyone who worked for/with me knew that I would listen to their concerns. However if I had the authority and the responsibility, I let everyone know that I made the final decision. That ended the discussion. And, of course, it helps if you’re always right. (LOL!)
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SSgt Scotty Marks
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Hell yes! Was ordered to do unauthorized repairs on flight control actuators and refused, citing the MIMS as justification. E9 Maintenance chief yelled "I WROTE THE BOOK!" So I pointed at the page in question and said "So you remember when you wrote this paragraph that says 'WARNING...' " He literally threw the book at me as I ran from his office. I've also been in some pretty good screaming matches with SNCO peers, but they usually resulted in agreement.
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My ex had similar issues with people being told to weld stuff that couldn't be welded.

I would have stood there, let the book hit me, then picked it up and thrown it back at him!
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Sounds like there was zero use of the chain of command and no thought to military bearing. Volume isn’t virtue. Make your case, if you don’t like the outcome, move up the chain but accept what your command decides or get good at saying “do you want fries with that”.
SP5 Peter Faris
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Just once, 1967, we had an idiot Captain who was sent to our unit to get him away from what they saw as serious duties at HQ. His policies were inconsistent and unpredictable (he had a serious accident involving head injury and it had not fully healed). I fear that as an E5 I put hands on him, just once. He filed for a Court Martial but was told by HQ to drop it and leave me alone, that I was filling an important slot and he was just filling space.
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SFC David Johnson
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Oh damn…. 773 comments! I believe it is most I have seen in a post.
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CMSgt Jay Pine
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