Posted on Sep 12, 2020
Has DoD Dropped Standards Too Low Just to Make Recruiting Goals?
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It seems every time I open a newspaper, news site, webpage, or other electronic publication there is at least one report of some service member being convicted of criminal acts. Talking with my son (who is active duty) and others who still serve, it seems more and more troops are facing disciplinary actions (up to and including general courts martial and punitive discharge). It makes me ask the question have we lowered the standards to much in an attempt to make recruiting goals? Years ago, we gave individuals the option of joining the military or going to prison. That proved disastrous overall and (thankfully) the policy was largely stopped. Now it seems we are returning to those days and waiving all sorts of derogatory history so an individual can be enlisted into the military.
As a secondary question: Has discipline become more of an issue or is it just in Today's interconnected world we see/hear more reporting of criminal activity?
https://www.wate.com/news/former-fort-campbell-medic-sentenced-to-15-years-in-rape-and-murder-of-infant-daughter/
As a secondary question: Has discipline become more of an issue or is it just in Today's interconnected world we see/hear more reporting of criminal activity?
https://www.wate.com/news/former-fort-campbell-medic-sentenced-to-15-years-in-rape-and-murder-of-infant-daughter/
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Our military has ways had discipline problems. That is what you get in a free nation.
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From what I've seen, a lot of the new recruits that are coming in want to do good. A lot of the time, it's the supervisors not giving much to them in the way of mentorship or development. The new E1-3's then see the grouchiness of those around them and adopt that mentality. The issue is often times the NCOs
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I do not think the standards have changed as much as the ability to enforce them. The way I was treated and needed to be treated in the 90s would not be allowed today. I do not think my shit started to get squared away until I was a junior captain and even during my LT years the way one of my head nurses treated me would get complaints today all over the place to leadership. She made me the nurse and officer I am today and have taken her good parts and carried them forward. From my time as a cadet in JROTC to my enlisted time to my JO time, I deserved everything I got and I think the ability to make a 19yo cry for the shit he did not really being allowed today is part of the problem.
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The standards haven't changed but I think societies has...and not all for the better. Just because someone has a clean record and good ASVAB scores that won't tell you if they will become a good service member. And I've met some dumb/criminal service members. Fortunately not many of them make it into our ranks but a few are bound to eventually become recruits.
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I'll point out that there are 1.3 million active duty and another 800,000 reservist, so I would expect that the same kind of things that happen in the rest of society to occur at some regularity. We still recruit human beings.
That said, the standards today are as strict as in any period that I can remember. If anything, there are some standards today that I believe cost the military a lot of good soldiers, both as recruits and as serving soldiers. While I had people that washed out of my OSUT class, today they send people home for some reasons that would have gotten you laughed at in the 80's and 90's.
That said, the standards today are as strict as in any period that I can remember. If anything, there are some standards today that I believe cost the military a lot of good soldiers, both as recruits and as serving soldiers. While I had people that washed out of my OSUT class, today they send people home for some reasons that would have gotten you laughed at in the 80's and 90's.
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