Has the military become too PC to fight the nation's wars?

YES! Ever since Truman was (in the words of Rodney Dangerfield) "too much of a pussy wimp to let McAurther go in there and blow out those commie bastards".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKBfT--rwmc

This subject gets me fired up!

PC stands for personal Courage, having enough of it to do your mission in combat and garrisson....the social experimentation and political correctness so as to not offend some jackwagon is down right ridiculous!

I heard a DA Civilian employee bitching and complaining today "the window shades need to remain closed" this is after the same jackwagon made it their mission to compete for and move into the "prime location within the office space" as to take ownership of having a view - are you f'in kidding me man? Another employee stated that it would be beneficial to let sunlight in the office, that is would help bring up the spirit and productivity of all the employees.....the jackwagon got onto their feet and stated loudly "I should not have to work with the window shades open, it gives me a bad headache, I should not have to" Then another civilian employee interjects, "I don't like working in a hostile environment". What a f'n clown show...this is fear of hurting someone's feeling is getting way out of hand - why, because I don't want to hurt someone's feelings.....I wonder how much the families of victims of the latest suicide attack in Belgium appreciate the political correctness of their society?

Could it get any better, well hell it can! You ready for this - so as I am heading out the door to go to another location for a meeting, I see two LTC's sitting on a bench speaking to one another, I render a crisp hand salute and offer the greeting of the day....one of the Officers immediately stands to the position of attention and returns the salute and replies with a courteous reply, the second LTC decides to get to his feet and returns the salute ("hi Sergeant Major") as I am walking away I hear a comment "what's wrong with him, why he wont let us be in the E-4 Army"....my thoughts "OH-HELL NO!" So I turn around and engage them in a conversation about personal courage and instilling the spirit to achieve and win in todays military.....the first LTC that stood at the position of attention and returned the salute approached me as if to draw me away from the other Officer.....he admitted "my buddy has a ------- problem"....thing is that I know their Brigade Commander on a professional and personal level (for more than 15 years)....would it be pertinent (to display personal courage and political correctness) to inform the Brigade Commander of that is going on in his ranks?

COL (Join to see) - Colonel; Left to implement the changes on its own the military will do just fine. The majority view is that PROVIDING that they can ACTUALLY MEET the existing standards then anyone should be allowed the chance to do any job in the military.

Given that attitude amongst the majority of "military leaders" the situation will shake down in time PROVIDED that those who don't know what they are talking about keep their mitts off.

I think the term 'politically correct' is very miss leading - as its origins is a description of a politician not offending anyone in their rhetoric. Behind the 'politically correct' veil there is still a person who's not being honest, presenting a false patina of who they really are and what they truly believe in - in fact the manifestation of a lie

I wonder if the real problem is that we make war to palatable. With things like the GC and other ROE's we try to mitigate the true nature of war. All the while knowing deep down the real truth is that we are capable of much worse as a race and that scares the shit out of us. We always say stuff like war is the result of failed policy when in fact the policy that failed was the result of a war.
Yet we still try to measure the space in between Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the holocaust.

I agree and I can say at least for me politics in the number one reason why I am leaving the military.

You signed up to protect democracy, not participate in it knot head. IF the Marine Corps ever wants your opinion you'll be promoted to Cpl. -- SgtMaj Kacjewski to a Pvt that thought he was too smart to be left out of the decision-making process.

Yes. He is right.

Death and destruction IS the byproduct of war. It is the reality of war which has been constant from the age of the shield and spear to today's age that includes concepts like EW and nuclear weapons. It is foolish and irresponsible to think otherwise. In today's sheltered society our culture conditions civilians and in some cases our military personnel to believe otherwise.

We must also recognize that our society has changed over the course of the last half-century. If that is a good or bad change it has to do a lot with personal preference however the Armed Forces had always and will always have one primary mission: Find the enemy, engage the enemy and destroy the enemy.

Anything that deters them from doing that is counter to the mission.

EO policies are a result of situations that occur in the force and are in need of addressing, sometimes those policies will disrupt the force, but it is our responsibility to make sure that the force will adapt without losing the ability to perform the mission. You can have all the policies in the world and you can still fail in addressing an issue, your policy can be subverted, distorted and used against the very spirit that it was created for. There is one key element that has to do with how those policies are implemented, interpreted etc. and it is the human factor.

If we don't train our NCOs and officers to be critical thinkers that stand for what is right and wrong, if we don't encourage them to speak against the wrong and the bad , if we cannot demonstrate that actions have consequences, if we allow people to use regulations to hide behind, then our will further deteriorate in a false sense of security and wishful thinking that has zero to do with the reality of the world.

In reality the world is not a fair place, the battlefield is not a fair place, not everyone plays by the same rules and certainly not our enemies.

The Army has changed, the Army is changing since it was created and it will be going through changes till the end of times, yes it has become more politically correct, yes that is a dangerous concept when you pit it vs the realities of the world, but it is not irreversible and it's not something that either has to be gray or white.

Our policies need to be zeroed in and our groupings tightened, that's how you avoid collateral damage and that is how you remain combat effective and true to your mission.

As a society we have the moral obligation to stay true to our founding fathers core beliefs, those beliefs are what separates us from any other country on the planet.

IMO, every flag officer on AD is playing the PC game to the max. They are all walking on pins and needles for fear they utter the wrong word their career is over. That my brothers and sisters is BULLS***!!! Yes, it is a good policy to have the military answering to the civilian leaders but those military leaders need not fear being fired because they piss someone off.

It depends on what "PC" means in this case. In warfare we used to have much stricter rules then we do now. I'd argue that in many ways we're far less "PC" now than we used to be.