Posted on Aug 30, 2015
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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Has the United Nations outlived its usefulness in World Order or does it need to be reorganized?

The United Nations (UN) is an intergovernmental organization to promote international co-operation. A replacement for the ineffective League of Nations, the organization was established on 24 October 1945 following the Second World War to prevent another such conflict. At its founding, the UN had 51 member states; there are now 193. The headquarters of the United Nations is in Manhattan, New York City, and experiences extraterritoriality.

Do we give the institution more power or do we dismantle it?

Do we come up with a new World Organization that brings the countries together for world issues and what does that look like?

Do we go back to the days before the United Nations and the League of Nations in 1920 prior to WW1 and let each country work out their own issues, create its own treaties and alliances, and solve its own problems (and if another country comes to their aid so be it)?

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CPT Jack Durish
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I'm tempted to respond "When has the UN ever been useful?" However, to be fair, some UN agencies have done some good in the world especially those that have helped developing nations address health and welfare issues. Basically, they are a bureaucracy that helps prop up failing bureaucracies in countries that haven't yet mastered the bureaucratic methodology. Beyond that, the UN has never promoted peace, not really, has it? Member nations wherein human rights are violated every day in every way are appointed to head up human rights panels. The same with women's rights and other popular issues. Would the world be a better place if it were abandoned? No. But I don't think it would be any the worse either. At least the tyrants of the world would have to find another forum to damn US and Israel...
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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CPT Jack Durish Great comments. Sorry I'm really behind on RP these days. Just getting caught up. Nicely stated!
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Sgt Martin Querin
Sgt Martin Querin
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Truth...
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Simply put, I think the United Nations has merit and should be retooled to provided the type of support and peace keeping operations that it was intended to provide. Without power instilled in such and organization we are bound to repeat the mistakes, conflicts, and turmoil of our past. Globalization has brought about major changes across the world and we need a forum or organization like the United Nations to try to come together on a larger scale.
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SSG Robert Webster
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The UN needs to be disbanded. No successor. This organization is just like a structure called a "money pit", no matter how much money, time, or effort is expended, it cannot be fixed. It is NGOs outside of the UN that actually appear to work when compared to similar programs run and supported by the UN.

I will use NATO for this example - Both organizations are completely different from each other. They both aim for peace and prosperity, international law and security, and the accomplishment of world peace. Both the organizations work hard to accomplish their goals.

Here is a link to an article that is similar in context - http://www.americanforeignrelations.com/A-D/Collective-Security-The-decline-of-collective-security.html
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Cpl James Waycasie
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I personally feel that there is no need for the U.N. I believe it is just another obstacle that we will eventually have to face. I see the reasoning in having a place where nations can meet and discuss problems and look for a peaceful solution rather than solving the problems with blood shed. Yet this really does not work at the present U.N. We would be much better served to honor our treaties and back our allies, you do not have to have an "Official Union of Nations" to conduct peace talks. I get asked advise a lot on what kind of pistol or rifle should I buy for self protection. My reply is always try handling other friends weapons and shop around, hold and feel of each weapon you like the looks of and see which one feels more comfortable to you. As far as caliber goes, I would not buy any caliber under a .380 for self defense in a pistol. I prefer a .40 caliber or a .45 myself for stopping power. I do also highly suggest that regardless of what you decide, you should add at least one 9mm pistol and one rifle that will shoot both the.223 and 5.56 bullets. You should own at least one of each. I am always asked why. I explain that Nato ammo for a pistol is normally 9 mm and that rifle ammo is 5.56, the civilian version being .223 and I always say make sure the rifle manual clearly states the rifle will fire both cartridges. Then they usually say what does that have to do with anything? I explain that the way our government is going and all of the civil unrest going on, that Civil War in this country is a possibility and if you had to stand and fight for your rights , it would be wise to own a few weapons that fire the same ammo as the UN troops carry as standard issue. If our Nation does rise, I believe the major forces we would have to deal with would be U.N. Troops. If you have the weapons they have, then you can use their ammo. Most people reply I never thought of that. Makes sense. As far as the Geneva convention and R.O.E.'s, I think we are about the only nation that bothers to try and follow them. I believe in fighting fire with fire. They don't follow the rules, neither should we. I see the U.N. as a thorn in our side and we would be better off looking after our own business and backing our true allies if need be and quit trying to support everybody else. We all know that the real reason for our involvement in the middle east is more about the oil resources and the money involved. If I were in charge of this country, I would pull out of the U.N., fire the Federal Reserve, print our own money instead of "borrowing from the Federal Reserves printing press. I would slow down on imports and try to re-establish "Made in the USA" again. I am not against helping other countries, but we cannot allow ourselves to become the Head Mistress of a World orphans home. We have the greatest Military force in the world and should fear no one, unfortunately we do not have the correct leadership to keep this country great ; the membership in the U.N. contributes to this problem greatly.
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SSG James Arlington
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We need to be reorganized too. :(
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Sgt Martin Querin
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LOL
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The UN is so ineffective anymore that it should be completely disbanded and all vestiges of its worthless and non-existent authority forever retracted.
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SSG John Jensen
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there needs to be a method for the body as a whole to over-ride the vetoes of the permanent members of the security council, so many good things that the UN tries to do, but one member of the security council shouts NOPE!, and it doesn't happen, this needs to change
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis
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It needs to be disbanded .
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis What would you replace it with or do go with Option NO 3?
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis
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I will have to get back to you in that one.
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MSG Laura Washington
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis I think a reorganization would be better. I wish there was a better way to select the representatives. The selection of a body that truly represents a desire to seek international peace, correct injustices, protect the humanity world wide, and have sincere efforts to decrease hunger and poverty on an international level.
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PO3 Steve Bagley
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So many good informed comments, I guess that comes from people with a military background . As for me I believe the UN has lost it's way . And it's past time to get out . How can you fix the U.N. when the majority , do not believe in America's form of government ?
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PO1 Kevin Dougherty
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While the principles and motives were good and noble, the levels of corruption and inefficiency have now rendered it useless. It has fallen far short of it's original intent, and given the degree of corruption existing within it's structure, it belongs on the dung heap with the rest of the waste.
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