Posted on Jun 11, 2022
Have the women with combat jobs in the Rangers and Special Forces actually been fighting along side men?
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Have the women with combat jobs and have made it to the Ranger Regiment and Special Forces actually been fighting along side men, or have they been just for show?
Women in the Military
Special Forces
11B: Infantryman
Combat
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PO2 Stephen Cline
I had a woman in 120 that we constantly had to help because she could not physically do the work required. It wasn't that she asked for help but because we were forced to. She was proteccted. She would come in with manicured painted nails. She was a small dainty thing. How she got through mitltary school for an AMS or AMH training I couldn't tell you. So I stand by my assessment.
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PO1 David Kingsley
TSgt James Sutton - I was just Curious, How many 60 lb Rucksacks are carried by Tactical Aircraft Maintenance Personnel doing their jobs?
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SPC Daniel Rankin
PO2 Stephen Cline - I don't know what unit you were in but painted nails were not allowed in any army units I was in. Female mechanics that I knew only wore then outside duty off base and took the polish off during duty time.
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I find it strange how there are so many people responding with negative comments or circumventing the question all together. Hell, I served along side many women, who II would have gladly stood beside in a combat or peace keeping role.
Obviously, women have been serving along side men, since the beginning. There are many examples of women serving along side of men. I have seen many example of women, holding support positions, working beside SF operations, without the designation. Often doing the same work.
That wasn't the question.
Reading it,
I expected to see real yes or no answers, hopefully, with examples.
I hoped to see examples of female soldiers serving in SF, Ranger Regiments, RECON, SOF... excelling in their field.
-Are these women getting a fair shake? Equal opportunities?
-Are they, as one responder described it, only being allowed to hold 'Token' positions?
-Are these women excelling in these advanced positions. Again examples would be nice.
-Are these women finding special niches for themselves where their smaller size and strength, would be more of a benefit, over the larger, stronger men? For example Tunnels, confined spaces, Close courters combat, Demolitions, MOUT...etc.
These are just a few of the more specific questions I would love to hear the answer to. Answers, I am assuming the original poster was looking for. I don't think he was asking a history question.
How is this special, current issue of integrating women into these specialty fields really going?
I do have to admit, the Little Big horn example was kind of interesting.
Obviously, women have been serving along side men, since the beginning. There are many examples of women serving along side of men. I have seen many example of women, holding support positions, working beside SF operations, without the designation. Often doing the same work.
That wasn't the question.
Reading it,
I expected to see real yes or no answers, hopefully, with examples.
I hoped to see examples of female soldiers serving in SF, Ranger Regiments, RECON, SOF... excelling in their field.
-Are these women getting a fair shake? Equal opportunities?
-Are they, as one responder described it, only being allowed to hold 'Token' positions?
-Are these women excelling in these advanced positions. Again examples would be nice.
-Are these women finding special niches for themselves where their smaller size and strength, would be more of a benefit, over the larger, stronger men? For example Tunnels, confined spaces, Close courters combat, Demolitions, MOUT...etc.
These are just a few of the more specific questions I would love to hear the answer to. Answers, I am assuming the original poster was looking for. I don't think he was asking a history question.
How is this special, current issue of integrating women into these specialty fields really going?
I do have to admit, the Little Big horn example was kind of interesting.
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SPC Daniel Rankin
PO2 Stephen Cline - History shows that women did serve in the combat zone during ww one and two. WACs they were called and they served honorably. Not all of them were nurses.
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MSgt Steven Smigelski
IIRC The native American women at the Little Big Horn came along after the battle and finished off the wounded and/or mutilated the corpses. Still, I wouldn't want to fight with a woman who was willing to shove a sewing awl into my eardrum!
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What are you trying to figure out? Women have been serving in Combat consistently for decades. It's been happening for a good long while. Are you wanting to know if female Rangers are door kicking or is this more general? Even before SECDEF opened up all jobs to females we had female engagement teams out there doing their thing shoulder to shoulder supporting infantry units.
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SSgt Christophe Murphy
PFC Elaine Knowles - I'm all for anyone serving who can do the job. Comparing CEOs to combat troops is comparing apples to jet fuel. The context and criteria are not the same. Even more so if you are talking about Tier 1 Units. Though around 100 Females have passed Ranger school only about 7 are serving in Ranger Regiment. Graduating a school is different than the Billet of a Ranger in Ranger Regiment. Only 3 females have passed the Army Q course (Special Forces) with the first being in 2020. No females have passed Buds. Only one female has passed the Officer pre buds training. Not to make this a bash session against women. There are plenty of Men who fail to meet these standards as well. Combat units, especially tier 1 units are not for everyone.
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MSG Moises Maldonado
BS.. Combat support(Logistical) is done at the REBA..(Do you know what REBA stand for?) That's not Direct combat..
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SSgt Christophe Murphy
MSG Moises Maldonado - Rear Echelon areas are a thing of the past my friend. The modern day combat environment is a 360 degree environment Log trains were running convoys in Afghanistan and Iraq and making contact daily and fighting the enemy on the daily. Men and women in support MOS's put in direct combat while doing logistical combat support. You have a very antiquated idea of combat.
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